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[daviddem]

Another common example is when we 5-bet pre-flop with a low pocket pair, wanting people to fold overs.

It would have been much smarter to start the thread with such an example, it would have avoided a lot of the "this is unrealistic bullshit" responses.

So here is one, in a heads up context, with 100bb stacks:

Villain (SB & BTN): AK (equity 43.65%)
Hero (BB): QQ (equity 56.35%)

Villain raises to 3bb, Hero raises to 10bb, Villain raises to 30bb, Hero raises to 100bb (all in)

Villain's pot odds: 35%

Hero's EV if villain (correctly) calls: 0.5635*200bb=112.7bb
Hero's EV if villain folds (he makes a mistake): 130bb

So even though Hero bets with the best hand, a fold from villain is a better outcome for him.

[spoonitnow]

It would have been much smarter to start the thread with such an example, it would have avoided a lot of the "this is unrealistic bullshit" responses.

Yeah but that's not as fun.

How bout when we're three way with a fish and a reg. The fish checks, we make a value bet against the fish but the same bet against the reg is a bluff.

That could work. Can you come up with one that's heads-up?