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 Originally Posted by daviddem
To our discharge, it's being hammered constantly in the BC that we never ever ever should wish an opp to fold a worse hand (and yes I do understand that it is important to teach that and keep it simple and that it's true in the vast majority of cases).
I even asked in IRC yesterday if anyone could think of a situation where it is not the case and some FTR reg said no, unless your life or bankroll depends on opp folding the hand.
Now for the fundamental theorem of poker, I think I get it also: if opp folds, he "makes a mistake" because he has sufficient showdown equity to profitably call with the pot odds offered to him. So we gain from his mistake if he folds. If he calls, he does not make a mistake, so we loose. What we gain or loose when he folds or calls is the difference between our EV when he folds ($12) and our EV when he calls ($10.95), so $1.05
No?
And as far as buying in full, we do, but we also face short stackers a lot, so this kind of stuff doesn't happen so rarely that it is not worth mentioning, right?
...feel like I' m gonna get trout-slapped again...
Right on 100%. As for another example like the bold, you'll also see people saying you should never value bet when you're behind your opponent's calling range, which is also incorrect.
 Originally Posted by Penneywize
Yeah thanks for the condescension spoon, can always count on you for that. Clearly I should go back to the 2 en els and learn poker properly before posting after you with a different opinion. Only idiots have opinions that differ from those of spoonitnow.
I' m pretty much not posting in any threads you're remotely involved in anymore.
If you can't take poker advice for beginners then get out of the poker advice forum for beginners.
 Originally Posted by Imthenewfish
why the hell does it matter what its called or what we hope he does
Hope the bold is a level.
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