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    who cares WHY we bet if betting is a win win situation?

    why are you making up these unrealistic situations, narrowing villains range to 3 hands, 1 hand etc, shouldn't you be focusing on fixing your real leaks instead of trying to be a poker philosopher?

    show me a guy who folds his draw to a 1/4 psb and if he is, it is so easy to beat him you dont need to calculate the EV outcome or we, just bet, shut down when he calls and get it in w the nuts. (obv. it is never that simple, cos they start playing back)

    just seems like a waste of time.
    Last edited by middleburn; 12-06-2010 at 08:48 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by middleburn View Post
    who cares WHY we bet if betting is a win win situation?

    why are you making up these unrealistic situations, narrowing villains range to 3 hands, 1 hand etc, shouldn't you be focusing on fixing your real leaks instead of trying to be a poker philosopher?

    show me a guy who folds his draw to a 1/4 psb and if he is, it is so easy to beat him you dont need to calculate the EV outcome or we, just bet, shut down when he calls and get it in w the nuts. (obv. it is never that simple, cos they start playing back)

    just seems like a waste of time.
    Knowing why you're taking the action you are is one of the most important things you can do to get better at poker. Just because betting is a win-win situation does not mean that checking is worse.

    It's not unrealistic to narrow a Villain's range to just a few hands. Additionally, the use of specific examples makes it easier to illustrate how poker works, and understanding how poker works in these specific examples makes it easier to understand how poker works when you're dealing with more complicated situations.

    There are people who fold their draws to small bets, just like there are people who call with their draws facing huge bets. Also, you aren't able to decide how to play against a person who folds their draws to small bets without evaluating the EV, so it's ridiculous to say that thinking about the EV is unnecessary to know how to play against any opponent.

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