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dalai008
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Nice post spoon. Question for you- My plan for moving up is as follows: I play 6-8 25 NL tables at once. When my BR hits my comfort zone ( for me = 1050$) I will add one table of 50 nL and have the rest be 25. When I hit 1100 I will add two and so on. If my BR falls to 1000 again I will add no tables of 50 NL until I get back to 1050. In this manner you gradually move into a higher level not jump in all at once and play with scared money. Most of your tables are 25 NL and psychologically you are in you comfort zone which should also apply to your one table of 50 nL. This of couse assumes the two levels play somewhat the same. At higher stakes this might not work but should work fine at lower stakes. Thoughts?
dalai
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spoonitnow
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Nice post spoon. Question for you- My plan for moving up is as follows: I play 6-8 25 NL tables at once. When my BR hits my comfort zone ( for me = 1050$) I will add one table of 50 nL and have the rest be 25. When I hit 1100 I will add two and so on. If my BR falls to 1000 again I will add no tables of 50 NL until I get back to 1050. In this manner you gradually move into a higher level not jump in all at once and play with scared money. Most of your tables are 25 NL and psychologically you are in you comfort zone which should also apply to your one table of 50 nL. This of couse assumes the two levels play somewhat the same. At higher stakes this might not work but should work fine at lower stakes. Thoughts?
dalai
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I don't really like the idea of spreading your play over multiple levels at low stakes but I don't really know why. If it works then that's cool. I wish you the best of luck.
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I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
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Robb
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Nice post spoon. Question for you- My plan for moving up is as follows: I play 6-8 25 NL tables at once. When my BR hits my comfort zone ( for me = 1050$) I will add one table of 50 nL and have the rest be 25. When I hit 1100 I will add two and so on. If my BR falls to 1000 again I will add no tables of 50 NL until I get back to 1050. In this manner you gradually move into a higher level not jump in all at once and play with scared money. Most of your tables are 25 NL and psychologically you are in you comfort zone which should also apply to your one table of 50 nL. This of couse assumes the two levels play somewhat the same. At higher stakes this might not work but should work fine at lower stakes. Thoughts?
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I don't really like the idea of spreading your play over multiple levels at low stakes but I don't really know why. If it works then that's cool. I wish you the best of luck.
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I tried it and didn't like it. That one table occupies too much attention, and the results on that table take all the focus off doing the right thing each time on your other seven.
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IowaSkinsFan
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Nice post spoon. Question for you- My plan for moving up is as follows: I play 6-8 25 NL tables at once. When my BR hits my comfort zone ( for me = 1050$) I will add one table of 50 nL and have the rest be 25. When I hit 1100 I will add two and so on. If my BR falls to 1000 again I will add no tables of 50 NL until I get back to 1050. In this manner you gradually move into a higher level not jump in all at once and play with scared money. Most of your tables are 25 NL and psychologically you are in you comfort zone which should also apply to your one table of 50 nL. This of couse assumes the two levels play somewhat the same. At higher stakes this might not work but should work fine at lower stakes. Thoughts?
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I don't really like the idea of spreading your play over multiple levels at low stakes but I don't really know why. If it works then that's cool. I wish you the best of luck.
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I don't either, psychologically really weird things happen.
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dalai008
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Join Date: Feb 2008
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I am not sure I agree with "all the focus will be on the one table". The way I envision it less focus will be on that table because only premium hands in position will even be considered thus making most decisions pretty straight forward. Playing suited connectors OOP and calling raises with "speulation hands" will only be considered on the other lower buy in tables. Very few marginal situations will arise because the default option will be to simply fold and wait for a better spot. Leave the rest for the other tables. Almost to the point of nut camping on the one higher stake table. Counter points welcome as always.
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PapalRage
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I am not sure I agree with "all the focus will be on the one table". The way I envision it less focus will be on that table because only premium hands in position will even be considered thus making most decisions pretty straight forward. Playing suited connectors OOP and calling raises with "speulation hands" will only be considered on the other lower buy in tables. Very few marginal situations will arise because the default option will be to simply fold and wait for a better spot. Leave the rest for the other tables. Almost to the point of nut camping on the one higher stake table. Counter points welcome as always.
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why would you purposefully play as scared money at the next level? you should always try to play the best poker you can, and i f solely nut camping is it, you should certainly stay at 25nl and try to improve.
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V Nice Thread
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HarleyGuy13
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I just want to bump this thread so all the noobies can see it. I just read it for the first time and WOW is all I can say. It is a great thought provoker if nothing else.
I personally am leaning towards being over rolled until I have really mastered my level. I figure what the hell it can't hurt that's for damn sure. After all I have pissed away over 150 BI's that I can remember so what the hell.
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The object is to fill the pot of experience before you empty the pot of luck."
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when I play on different levels at the same time I start to forget the other level is different so I play the same on all of my tables
so if it works for you, do it
if it doesn't work for you, don't do it
just because someone says it fucks with your head doesn't mean you can't try it
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dafu
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bump
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d0zer
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As someone who has practiced rather... "aggressive" BRM on more than a few occasions (10BI not uncommon), I have to say that it usually adds a fair bit of stress to poker leading to suboptimal play.
You also have to be very good at quitting & dropping down, and be ok with that happening much more frequently than if you're playing with more conservative BRM.
edit: but I've actually made it work, so I highly recommend it.
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Johnny Cashout
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good timing bump, trying to find the discipline and willpower to move back down to 25nl!!
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Current Goal: Breaking 50NL
Wish me luck!!!
Check my profile for my personal poker blog!
Constructive criticism welcome!
-looking for comments as I post my daily battles/struggles through 50NL full ring cash games!
Johnnycashout()com
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EasyPoker
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Very salient topic for me right now. I personally agree with Spoon here. 20BI is too little. Until recently I was being as conservative as playing with 40BI at 20nl. However, I've been playing my A game more often recently (tilting like 95% less, studying regularly, making huge folds etc etc) plus I read this: Bankroll Management :Suited Aces and it convinced me that when you're playing good and you have at least 25-30BI (dependent on you) for the stakes above, NOT taking shots is potentially burning money.
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[20:19] <Zill4> god
[20:19] <Zill4> u guys
[20:19] <Zill4> so fking hopeless
[20:19] <Zill4> and dumb
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hmmmmm interesting (all of the above)...........
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20 bi is abso fine if you have high risk tolerance. if you are a tilt monkey or the monies matter to you then obv a higher number of BI is required.
I've said this when this was posted and I'll say it again. Unless you are relying on the monies for income play to your risk tolerance and don't prevent yourself from making craploads with prohibitive br requirements either way. If the games are great at the stake above go for it, and if the games really suck at your reg stakes drop down or just dont play.
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