Trump is the WWE and Mueller is The Undertaker

[BananaStand]

Will that be a shorter or longer wait than the one for the Wall?

according to you neither should take very long at all. We just say "too expensive" and that's that

[Poopadoop]

according to you neither should take very long at all. We just say "too expensive" and that's that

Congress said (paraphrasing) 'your stupid kevlar Wall is too expensive', yes.

I guess to make the question easier for you to grasp, I'll put it this way:

Will Trump be able to convince Congress to do whatever you think he wants to do with entitlements? And if so, why is he taking > 1 1/2 years to do it? I mean I know he has a lot of golf to play,but really 1 1/2 years seems like a long time to get this vital bit of legislation pushed through.

Are you even aware if there's been any bill proposed to change the entitlement law? 'Cause I haven't heard of such.

[OngBonga]

Is this therapy to you guys?

I just wonder what it is that keeps you two going.

[Poopadoop]

Is this therapy to you guys?

I just wonder what it is that keeps you two going.

This is the Trump/Mueller thread, we're talking about Trump and Mueller. Seems pretty self-explanatory to me.

Also, aren't you pretty busy setting up that meth lab?

[BananaStand]

So congress doesn't just exist at your whim. There's a schedule. Lots of committees and such going on around legislative business. They have so much time each session, and not everything makes the cut.

The legislative priority for the remainder of this session is the confirmation of Bret Kavanaugh to the supreme court. That's all congress is doing between now and midterm elections. There isn't time for anything else.

Walls and entitlements will go through the next session of congress, provided we don't get bogged down with something stupid like a petty impeachment battle, lol.

I can see Dems already getting revved up over this Cohen business. Gonna be fun to watch them all fall flat on their faces when they finally realize Trump didn't actually commit a crime.

[OngBonga]

This is the Trump/Mueller thread, we're talking about Trump and Mueller. Seems pretty self-explanatory to me.

Also, aren't you pretty busy setting up that meth lab?

Oh, you are actually on topic? Sorry, I saw you guys bickering and scanned past the vast majority of that convo.

[Poopadoop]

So congress doesn't just exist at your whim. There's a schedule. Lots of committees and such going on around legislative business. They have so much time each session, and not everything makes the cut.

The legislative priority for the remainder of this session is the confirmation of Bret Kavanaugh to the supreme court. That's all congress is doing between now and midterm elections. There isn't time for anything else.

Walls and entitlements will go through the next session of congress, provided we don't get bogged down with something stupid like a petty impeachment battle, lol.

I can see Dems already getting revved up over this Cohen business. Gonna be fun to watch them all fall flat on their faces when they finally realize Trump didn't actually commit a crime.

Sounds like Trump is prioritizing the stuff that a guy who doesn't expect to be around long would do, like SCJ.

Wall already went through the last couple of budget rounds. Better luck next time I guess (if it gets that far).

Entitlements still hasn't come up afaik. And guessing it never will, otherwise why beg off on money for the Wall?

Yea, Trump has nothing to worry about. He just keeps ranting about witch hunts cause he's bored with golfing I guess. And anyways, we'd be told all about it if Mueller had anything on him; that's what good prosecutors do, spill the beans in an ongoing investigation.

[Poopadoop]

Oh, you are actually on topic? Sorry, I saw you guys bickering and scanned past the vast majority of that convo.

Intriguing that you avoided the second question.

[OngBonga]

Intriguing that you avoided the second question.

Because I'm either not and it's a ridiculous question, or I am and would never directly admit it.

Duh.

[Poopadoop]

Because I'm either not and it's a ridiculous question, or I am and would never directly admit it.

Duh.

That's what makes it intriguing. Not knowing which.

DUH.

[OngBonga]

Alright I'll ruin the intrigue.

LSD, not meth.

[OngBonga]

I'm joking, officer.

[BananaStand]

Sounds like Trump is prioritizing the stuff that a guy who doesn't expect to be around long would do, like SCJ

If you don't understand why a SCJ is a top and urgent priority...fuck you.

[Poopadoop]

LSD's a weak seller these days. Try MDMA or design your own knockoff.

[OngBonga]

If you don't understand why a SCJ is a top and urgent priority...fuck you.

Excuse me, I'm trying to have a convo here about drugs.

[Poopadoop]

If you don't understand why a SCJ is a top and urgent priority...fuck you.

I understand it's a top priority for a loser president who's about to have his orange ass impeached...fuck you.

[OngBonga]

LSD's a weak seller these days. Try MDMA or design your own knockoff.

MDMA... hmmm, I liked that, back in the day. Maybe.

[BananaStand]

I understand it's a top priority for a loser president who's about to impeached...fuck you.

I'll take any wager you wanna make on impeachment bro. and fuck you too

[OngBonga]

No, fuck me.

[Poopadoop]

Excuse me, I'm trying to have a convo here about drugs.

maybe you can make opioids. I've heard they're super easy to smuggle into the US these days 'cause there's no kevlar Wall yet.

[Poopadoop]

I'll take any wager you wanna make on impeachment bro. and fuck you too

Sure and how will I collect when you lose? If you think I'm coming to New Hampshire to run the gauntlet of gun-toting yahoos to get my money, you're dreaming bro. So fuck you some more.

[Poopadoop]

MDMA... hmmm, I liked that, back in the day. Maybe.

It'd be kind of fun, speaking theoretically of course (officer), to try moving a few atoms around on MDMA and seeing how it changes the high.

[BananaStand]

Sure and how will I collect when you lose? If you think I'm coming to New Hampshire to run the gauntlet of gun-toting yahoos to get my money, you're dreaming bro. So fuck you some more.

I said ANY wager you wanna make. So fuck your mother.

How about this....

If Trump leaves office in any manner other than impeachment, you have to post a 5 minute video to YouTube where you sing "I had the time of my life" and dance with a life size cardboard cutout of Trump

[Poopadoop]

I said ANY wager you wanna make. So fuck your mother.

How about this....

If Trump leaves office in any manner other than impeachment, you have to post a 5 minute video to YouTube where you sing "I had the time of my life" and dance with a life size cardboard cutout of Trump

Yea, see the thought of public humiliation of someone doesn't get me hard the way it gets you hard. A better reward for me would be if you started taking your angry cunt classes seriously so we could all put up with you easier. But I know you'll never agree to that.

And frankly, I don't really think he can get impeached because its too hard for the D to get 2/3 of the house and senate. They might get the house, but not enough of the senate is up for grabs to make it a good bet. And unless he actually shoots a load in Ivanka's face on live tv, the R will never vote against him because they're complete and utter pussies. So it's more of a dream than a reality.

He's still going to get spanked hard in the midterms though and become a lame-duck president for the last 2 years or less of his tenure.

Also, there's a non-zero chance he dies or gets incapacitated before he completes his term, or that the 'deep state' bumps him off lol.

[BananaStand]

A better reward for me would be if you started taking your angry cunt classes seriously so we could all put up with you easier. But I know you'll never agree to that.

On the contrary. I'm game.

The video you post has to stay up for at least six months.

do we have a wager?

[Poopadoop]

On the contrary

do we have a wager?

Lol, I just explained why it's not a good bet to take.

Try using your awesome comprehension skills on that and then see if you can suss out the answer to your question from that. I'll give you two guesses so you have at least a better than zero chance of getting it right.

Also, there's no way in hell i believe you have the humility to take professional help seriously. You'd start posting shit on here you copied from some angry cunt self-help website about how it helped you. But we'd all know you were lying, you'd still be a douchebag, and on top of it you'd claim compliance.

It's interesting though that you're actually too stupid to see how transparently fake your promise is.

[BananaStand]

And frankly, I don't really think he can get impeached because its too hard for the D to get 2/3 of the house and senate.

He can't get impeached 'cuz he didn't do anything wrong. Deluded twit.

[BananaStand]

Also, there's no way in hell i believe you have the humility to take professional help seriously.

LOL. You think it's a lack of humility that prevents me from taking it seriously?

No. What's missing is credibility on the part of the so-called 'professionals'

You guys really have no fucking idea how the brain works. So don't go poking around in there.

[oskar]

If Trump leaves office in any manner other than impeachment,

Not sure if 141 IQ trap or not understanding how impeachment works.

[Poopadoop]

He can't get impeached 'cuz he didn't do anything wrong. Deluded twit.

You have omniscience into all Trump has done I see. Well, I guess he's innocent then.

[BananaStand]

You have omniscience into all Trump has done I see. Well, I guess he's innocent then.

The presumption of innocence is Trump's inalienable right as an American citizen. I don't need omniscience to declare that his innocence is an irrefutable demonstrable objective factual reality.

[Poopadoop]

LOL. You think it's a lack of humility that prevents me from taking it seriously?

That, plus the arrogance evident in the next statement, yes.

What's missing is credibility on the part of the so-called 'professionals'

Best I can gather, all the guy was going to do was talk to you about controlling your anger issues. It doesn't take a genius to see you have them. What do you have to lose by sitting down and talking with someone?

You guys really have no fucking idea how the brain works.

Ya it's complicated. That's why my career choice is such a waste of time I guess. Also cause we can't find the answers using Excel.

So don't go poking around in there.

Actually we do know some things. For example, there's an area called the orbitofrontal cortex that sits right behind the eye sockets that's involved in social behaviour. If it gets damaged, people lose their ability to filter their behaviour appropriately. They might, in an extreme case, swear in church. In more typical cases, they become what a layman might refer to as a 'jerk'.

Coincidentially, I've been wondering - have you ever been in a car accident or received a blow to the head?

[Poopadoop]

The presumption of innocence is Trump's inalienable right as an American citizen. I don't need omniscience to declare that his innocence is an irrefutable demonstrable objective factual reality.

Well it's not "irrefutable." It simply hasn't been refuted YET (at least not in a court of law). It's a subtle yet important distinction.

[Poopadoop]

LOL. You think it's a lack of humility that prevents me from taking it seriously?

No. What's missing is credibility on the part of the so-called 'professionals'

Ya, but despite all this I'm meant to believe that if you lost a bet you would suddenly take it seriously. Come on man, my IQ isn't as low as yours. Try harder to be credible.

[BananaStand]

Well it's not "irrefutable." It simply hasn't been refuted YET (at least not in a court of law). It's a subtle yet important distinction.

Wow. That's NOT how justice works in America. That's how justice works in your imaginary dreamland where the government is wholly corrupt, but only in ways you like, so it's ok.

[Poopadoop]

Not sure if 141 IQ trap or not understanding how impeachment works.

If it's a trap it's well below the level of his claimed IQ that puts him in the top 0.3% of the population, that he employs to skillfully re-arrange other people's sentences and rage-post on the internet.

[OngBonga]

Well it's not "irrefutable." It simply hasn't been refuted YET (at least not in a court of law). It's a subtle yet important distinction.

Bit thin. Banana is right that Trump's innocence is a presumption protected by law. It's for courts to determine guilt.

Perhaps the word "irrefutable" is the wrong choice, but don't let that allow the point to go over your head.

[BananaStand]

If it's a trap it's well below the level of his claimed IQ that puts him in the top 0.3% of the population, that he employs to skillfully re-arrange other people's sentences and rage-post on the internet.

Finally some credit!

[Poopadoop]

Wow. That's NOT how justice works in America. That's how justice works in your imaginary dreamland where the government is wholly corrupt, but only in ways you like, so it's ok.

Nope, you're being a dummy again. Get a dictionary. Honestly it will help you.

There's an objective truth that exists outside of any legal status. Saying a person who hasn't been charged with a crime is "irrefutably, objectively" innocent is just silly. A person either did or did not commit a crime. If they did they are objectively and irrefutably guilty of that crime, whether it's been tried in a court of law or not. They still need to be convicted in court in order to be punished for that crime, but objectively they ARE irrefutably guilty. And if they are irrefutably guilty in an objective sense, then they get convicted in a court, that means their innocence was not irrefutable, since their conviction definitely refutes it.

Arguing that someone is "objectively" innocent of a crime because a) you're personally unaware of any evidence that might impugn them; and b) they've yet to be tried for it in a court of law (presumably this only works if it's an American court of law, because other countriees just throw whoever they like in prison with no trial) is just silly. It's like saying before Newton proved gravity was a thing, gravity "objectively" didn't exist. Of course it did, and you're an idiot if you try to argue otherwise.

[Poopadoop]

Also, arguing Trump's (current) legal status as "innocent" is relevant to the discussion implies that this status means he has therefore not committed any crimes that he could be found guilty of. It's just a horrible, illogical argument that wouldn't get past a high school law class.

[BananaStand]

objectively and irrefutably guilty of that crime, whether it's been tried in a court of law or not.

The exact language is...

"presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law."

Wanna try that whole spiel over again?

[Poopadoop]

The exact language is...

"presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law."

Wanna try that whole spiel over again?

Can you really not see the difference between this and what you said in your post?

The key word here is "presumed"

Take a minute to think it over and maybe get a dictionary and thesaurus out. You'll see that "presumed" has quite a different meaning than "objective" or "irrefutable".

The presumption of innocence has nothing to do with objective truth. It is where all cases begin at point zero, before any evidence is presented.

The presumption of innocence is entirely refutable during the course of a trial given compelling enough evidence. That's the prosecutor's job.

I understand it's a bit of a head-bender for some lower IQ folks such as yourself. Try thinking again about the difference between an "objective" truth and a truth that has been proven using evidence.

[BananaStand]

Your claim in post #255 was that determining his guilt or innocence required omniscient powers.

My counter to that, is that you don't. It's actually spelled out on actual physical paper what it takes to determine his guilt or innocence and under what circumstances the government might be empowered to even enact such an inquiry. Until that's done, he's entitled to the presumption of innocence. Which makes him innocent. And that's not disputable.

[Poopadoop]

Your claim in post #255 was that determining his guilt or innocence required omniscient powers.

My counter to that, is that you don't. It's actually spelled out on actual physical paper what it takes to determine his guilt or innocence and under what circumstances the government might be empowered to even enact such an inquiry. Until that's done, he's entitled to the presumption of innocence. Which makes him innocent. And that's not disputable.

Oh ok whatever.

Your claim was that "he did nothing wrong". My response rightly questioned how you could possibly know that.

If you had said instead "he's innocent until proven guilty" it would have been entirely correct. Funny you're only saying that now after I roasted you over your previous argument which was, taken literally, quite retarded.

[BananaStand]

I still claim he did nothing wrong.

Even if all the dems wildest wet dreams were true....he knew about the Trump tower meeting, the pee tape is real, hes tossed putins salad.....i still dont see what crime he committed

[BananaStand]

So Mueller had Cohen by the balls. Obviously he must have because Cohen isn't even putting up a fight now.

Except Mueller let Cohen go. He concluded that Cohen was useless to him and turned over the case to NY prosecutors.

And now...suddenly, we're all waiting with baited breath to see if Cohen says anything shocking to Mueller.

is this really happening? Are people really this dumb?

Trump has two completely plausible and virtually unassailable defenses here.

1) He didn't care about how the affairs would influence the election. He paid those bitches off to hide the affairs from his wife. John Edwards used this defense, and he was acquitted. BTW, as you can imagine in politics, this sort of thing comes up often. Thus, it actually has a name. You can google "mistress loophole"

2) He paid those bitches with his own money. This is verifiable and by all accounts so far seems to be true. So it actually has nothing to do with campaign finances. And thus, isn't a crime. It's not even a moral/ethical lapse. It's just a dirty rich guy being a dirty rich guy.

[oskar]

They'll make him testify. Dems will get majority after midterms, they'll impeach him, and once you get Trump under oath, he's finished. Go back and read the questions from Kavanough to Clinton https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...stions-713428/ if you want to have some fun, and imagine Trump trying to answer them without implicating himself. He can hardly go a sentence without implicating himself while answering softball Fox&Friends questions. Even if he was completely innocent, he's too stupid not to self destruct. And you know what, I think he's guilty as fuck, but even if he wasn't, they'd still get him. I wouldn't even call that foul play. If you're that fucking stupid, you shouldn't be president.

[Poopadoop]

Haha, well seeing him trying to testify under oath live on TV would make the last two years almost worthwhile. Fuck, just imagining it is almost making it worthwhile.

Frankly though, I don't think it'll get that far. As soon as he gets called before Congress he'll have some 'medical incident' or some stupid bullshit excuse why he can't do it. Bone spurs in his brain or some shit.

Actually, no he's not smart enough to know how dumb he is. In his mind, he'll go and testify, admit to several felonies, and then claim it as a historic performance. And he'll interrupt the proceedings several times to tweet about Hillary and how the fake news should be talking about her emails instead of whether he will have Cohen, Manafort, Jared, or Don Jr., for his cellmate. So unfair!

[Poopadoop]

Haha can you imagine Mueller asking Trump

"If Stormy Daniels said you had her tie you on the bed and spank you with a rolled up magazine with Ivanka on the cover, would she be lying?"

"If Stormy Daniels said you then made her cut out the picture of Ivanka and tape it over her face, while giving you oral sex, would she be lyiing?"

"If Stormy Daniels said you cried out Ivanka's name several times during sex would she be lying?"

"If Vladimir Putin said you begged him to be your best friend forever would he be lying?"

"If, oh forget it, just get the handcuffs."

[BananaStand]

Haha can you imagine Mueller asking Trump

I imagine it would sound something like this....

"If Stormy Daniels said you had her tie you on the bed and spank you with a rolled up magazine with Ivanka on the cover, would she be lying?"

Objection: relevance

"If Stormy Daniels said you then made her cut out the picture of Ivanka and tape it over her face, while giving you oral sex, would she be lyiing?"

Objection: Relevance

"If Stormy Daniels said you cried out Ivanka's name several times during sex would she be lying?"

Objection: relevance

"If Vladimir Putin said you begged him to be your best friend forever would he be lying?"

Objection: Relevance

"If, oh forget it, just get the handcuffs."

Objection: Assumes facts not in evidence. Were any of those questions even in relation to any crime at all?

[BananaStand]

And you know what, I think he's guilty as fuck,

Of what?

Serious question. Can you tell me exactly which criminal deeds you think he's committed, and explain how you think the crime may have possibly occurred? Please elaborate and cite the evidence you're using to draw your conclusions. And also please try to acknowledge the existence of counter-evidence, and do your best to address it's validity with facts, logic, and reason.

Do you have enough IQs to handle all that?

[BananaStand]

So the Trump haters are gonna spend the next news cycle ramming down our throat that Trump directed cohen to pay the porn stars. That's what cohen pled guilty to. That's the crime for which they will seek impeachment.

The truly entertaining irony is that because Trump ordered it, it's not a crime.

Cohen committed crimes. Tax evasion and fraud. He committed them as an agent of himself and his own businesses. Not a Trump employee. He is facing 65 years in prison for those crimes.

Now add the following ingredients....

Cohen is represented by Lanny Davis. Bill Clinton's lawyer.
Cohen is being prosecuted by a non-Mueller-affiliated prosecutor in a deeply democrat district

What do you get?
Cohen pleads guilty to all of the above PLUS implicates the president and will now serve 3-4 years in prison.

This is the smoking gun that's going to lead to impeachment? Really?

Here's the truth guys. The president can spend his own money. There are invoices from cohen to Trump for these payments. He paid Cohen back. Cohen is lying and saying that Trump directed him to break campaign finance laws. There's no way Trump said "Go pay these bitches, and I'm not paying you back, thanks for your campaign contribution fucko!". That's especially not true because, like I said, THERE ARE INVOICES!!!!!!

WOMP WOMP

[Poopadoop]

Why don't you just give up pretending that you have all the facts.

[Poopadoop]

I imagine it would sound something like this....


Objection: relevance

You imagine Trump is going to have a lawyer present at his own impeachment? That's not how it works, low IQ person.

[BananaStand]

ahem....exactly which facts am I pretending to have? what specifically do you find not compelling?

Also, Trump will have a lawyer present during questioning. Are you retarded???

[Poopadoop]

Are you retarded???

No, you are.

The lawyer doesn't get to answer questions FOR him, moronic low IQ guy.

Anyways Trump is fucked and everyone who isn't glued to Fox News knows it. But, as long as you're happy sipping their Kool Aid you go right ahead and keep your straw in the jar. It will never run out as long as idiots like you are around to lap it up.

[BananaStand]

The lawyer doesn't get to answer questions FOR him, moronic low IQ guy.

Where did I ever suggest that would be the case?

This was your exact quote

You imagine Trump is going to have a lawyer present at his own impeachment? That's not how it works, low IQ person.

This was my response:

Trump will have a lawyer present during questioning.

What are you missing here? Why are you suddenly imagining a lawyer answering questions? Also, why would a lawyer not object to irrelevant questioning? That's exactly what a lawyer does. What exactly do you think is "retarded" about the scene I'm imagining? Stop being such a retard.

How is it that you believe you can effectively study the brain, when your own is so clearly defective?

Anyways Trump is fucked

How exactly? Exactly what infraction did he commit that rises to the level of impeachment? Please explain. No demagoguery please.

[Poopadoop]

How exactly? Exactly what infraction did he commit that rises to the level of impeachment? Please explain. No demagoguery please.

I know this is the argument you keep hearing from Guiliani and Fox & Friends, and it's so hammered into your thick skull that you'll believe it as a reflex and regardless of the mounting evidence, but here's just a couple of examples.

1. Cohen's plea directly implicated Trump as an unindicted co-conspirator in using campaign funds illegally. I know you heard on Fox that Trump can make up all sorts of excuses for this, but no sorry, he's fucked.

2. NY just filed a case against Trump, Don Jr., Eric, and even precious Ivanka for misuse of funds within the Trump Foundation. If you don't know, this was registered as a charity, but has in fact been used by Trump and his kids as a personal bank account, including using it to pay off a lawsuit, and no doubt also while he was president. NY state subpoenaed Cohen over this, and Cohen just about broke his legs jumping up to offer them evidence.

How many more things do you think are out there that we don't yet know about, but Mueller does (ya ya I know you think you know everything Mueller does, but you're a dumb fuck so that's irrelevant).

We're going to see how irrefutably objectively innocent Trump is in due course. Just be patient. In the meantime though, keep watching Fox News and Guiliani and keep regurgitating the idiotic spin they're feeding into Trumptards like you.

The funniest part of this all is, even if you and your 33% of the US is completely brainwashed and taken in by this moron/ con man, he's still going to get so much bad press between now and Nov. that the D and independent voters are going to come out in droves in the midterms, and it's going to be a complete, unprecedented loss for the Rs.

The best Trumptards can hope for is that he gets to sit in the WH for two more years as a lame-duck president who can't accomplish anything because the Ds own the House. That's the best. I can't even imagine the worst yet, because there's so much more yet to come out, but it's not hard to believe he will be taken straight to jail the day he leaves the WH.

[BananaStand]

1. Cohen's plea directly implicated Trump as an unindicted co-conspirator in using campaign funds illegally. I know you heard on Fox that Trump can make up all sorts of excuses for this, but no sorry, he's fucked.

That's Cohen's side of the story. He used to have a different story. Then he got caught running shady taxi cab businesses and was facing 65 years in prison. Then Bill Clinton's lawyer showed up. And suddenly it's down to 3 years. All he has to do is say bad things about Trump.

Here are 3 potential scenarios for how this went down.
A) Cohen thought to himself "These bitches are gonna bring my boy down, I better clean this up before the election", and then Cohen went and paid them off, using his own money, to help the campaign.

B) Trump told Cohen to go pay the women off, to help the campaign. And he either told Cohen to use campaign funds to do it, or told Cohen to use his own money, with no intention of paying him back.

C) Trump said "Pay these bitches off. Bill me"

A is a crime, but in scenario A Trump isn't involved. B is a crime. But if B really happened, then there wouldn't be invoices showing Trump paying Cohen back. C is not a crime. And if C really happened, there would be invoices. And there are invoices.

If you can find a plausible crime in there, I'm all ears. Seriously man, if you can find fault in any of that logic, I will happily consider it with an open mind. But your desperate cries of "he's fucked" sound like nothing more than the wishful rantings of someone with a low IQ.

[BananaStand]

2. NY just filed a case against Trump, Don Jr., Eric, and even precious Ivanka for misuse of funds within the Trump Foundation. If you don't know, this was registered as a charity, but has in fact been used by Trump and his kids as a personal bank account, including using it to pay off a lawsuit, and no doubt also while he was president. NY state subpoenaed Cohen over this, and Cohen just about broke his legs jumping up to offer them evidence.

The question was, " what infraction did [President Trump] commit that rise to the level of impeachment?"

And you're telling me about some stuff his kids did.....

And you're also telling me you're not retarded.....

It's very tough to take you seriously.

[Poopadoop]

It's going to be great watching this unfold, and your reactions to it.

I predict that just like the Manafort case, you're going to take the talking points you get off Guiliani and Fox News, post them here, and when it turns out they don't amount to fuck all but besides hot air, you're going to go silent.

Remember your posts about Manafort's trial? I'll sum them up for you.

1. Manafort's judge told off the prosecutors on the first day! How do you think Mueller feels??? (answer: he doesn't give a shit, stuff like this happens in court, idiot).

2. Manafort's jury is taking a long time, zomg poor Mueller what is going to do? (answer: there's 18 charges, what do you expect idiot?)

3. Manafort's jury is asking what to do if they can't reach agreement! Mueller must be going crazy? (answer: there's 18 charges, being undecided on some isn't surprising, idiot).

And then... Manafort is found guilty on 8 charges ... complete silence.

lmao.

here we have the first post about how Trump doesn't care that Cohen implicated him as a criminal co-conspirator in election fraud because blah blah blah.

Tomorow, we'll get to learn what else Fox News has to say about it.

And so on for the next few months if not years.

Then, when Trump is finally fucked and in handcuffs, silence.

[BananaStand]

What would you like to discuss about the manafort case?

Would you like to talk about the juror who came out and claimed that the prosecution was clearly anti-Trump? How the real motivation of the case was to get Trump? how they were seen sleeping on the job?

Manafort was convicted because he's an idiot who left a paper trail. The paper was too compelling, but only on less than half the counts.

Also, he hasn't been sentenced yet. So let's just see what the judge has to say about that.

What else can we talk about? Let's talk about how none of Manaforts crimes have shit to do with Trump

Wanna discuss how Manafort has still not said a word to Mueller implicating Trump?

Wanna discuss how Manafort is facing yet another trial in NY for similar charges, probably shouldn't expect a different result, and still hasn't flipped against trump?

Can we maybe try and guess why Manafort hasn't talked if he is in fact sitting on highly incriminating information against Trump. Is it possible he enjoys solitary confinement?

Let's talk about Manafort.....

what would you like to know?

[Poopadoop]

Here are 3 potential scenarios for how this went down.

A) Cohen thought to himself "These bitches are gonna bring my boy down, I better clean this up before the election", and then Cohen went and paid them off, using his own money, to help the campaign.

ya, this was Trump's original explanation right? He knew nothing about the payoff and Cohen was just being his friend and paying these sluts out of his own pocket, because, you know, that's what friends do, make payments to sluts for their friends.

How long did that story last? About 3 days iirc.

lmao that you can post this as a legimitate theory. Get with the times, moron.

B) Trump told Cohen to go pay the women off, to help the campaign. And he either told Cohen to use campaign funds to do it,

the most likely scenario by far, since Trump is too cheap to spend his own money when he can spend someone else's.

or told Cohen to use his own money, with no intention of paying him back.

lol ya right. The only part of this that's believable is that Trump would stiff his own lawyer of 12 years.

C) Trump said "Pay these bitches off. Bill me"

I guess you missed that this is actually on tape, and Trump said 'use cash'. So wait, Cohen was supposed to use HIS OWN cash to pay these sluts, and then send Trump a bill? How does that make any sense? And what do they say when the IRS asks where's the paper trail for this bill. "Oh sorry we used cash for that particular service."

This is why you're not a lawyer, and why you are a moron.

[BananaStand]

How many more things do you think are out there that we don't yet know about, but Mueller does (ya ya I know you think you know everything Mueller does, but you're a dumb fuck so that's irrelevant).

You really don't understand a fucking thing do you??

Do you think it's possible that Trump sent a Hallmark card to Putin saying "Thanks for the collusion, love ya bro!"

Short of that kind of physical evidence, Mueller is going to need testimony from witnesses. In order to secure testimony from witnesses, he has to offer them immunities, or plea agreements. That is, unless you think he's foolish enough to just take people's word. These agreements would have to be filed in courts where the immediately become matters of public record.

This is why we know about Popadopolous and Flynn. Unless you remember Mueller giving a press conference telling the public "Hey we got Pops and Mikey!". Did that happen? I don't recall.

So without a witness, what could Mueller possibly have?

[BananaStand]

I guess you missed that this is actually on tape,.

No I didn't. And I'm so glad you brought it up.

and Trump said 'use cash'.

Do I have to explain to you that when rich people say "cash" they mean "liquid assets" and not necessarily physical currency, right?

So wait, Cohen was supposed to use HIS OWN cash to pay these sluts, and then send Trump a bill?

Yes. That's exactly how it's supposed to work. At this point I think it's important to mention that Cohen only paid off Stormy. That other woman had her story bought by the National Enquirer and then squashed. Trump kinda had a standing agreement with the paper to do that sort of thing for him when women came around with stories about him. That pre-dates his candidacy by the way. So just because it happened in proximity to the election doesn't automatically make it something different.

Anyway, Cohen then paid off the Enquirer, and then billed Trump.

How does that make any sense?

Lawyers bill clients for reimbursable expenses all the time. Are you feeling ok?

And what do they say when the IRS asks where's the paper trail for this bill. "Oh sorry we used cash for that particular service."

I don't get what you mean. A lawyer presents a bill for "consulting services". Client pays bill. All legal. All above board. All on the books. Happens all the time. The details are nobody's business.....least of all, the IRS's.

This is why you're not a lawyer, and why you are a moron.

I can't understand you with your dick in your mouth.

[Poopadoop]

What would you like to discuss about the manafort case?

Would you like to talk about the juror who came out and claimed that the prosecution was clearly anti-Trump?

lol fuck off. The juror probably was watching Fox News like you. What a fucking moron. I'm surprised it was only one juror who was this brainwashed. What did the other 11 jurors say about it huh?

Let's talk about how none of Manaforts crimes have shit to do with Trump

Then why keep posting about his trial like it's actually a win for Trump if he gets off? Who cares?

Wanna discuss how Manafort has still not said a word to Mueller implicating Trump?

Wanna discuss how Manafort is facing yet another trial in NY for similar charges, probably shouldn't expect a different result, and still hasn't flipped against trump?

Can we maybe try and guess why Manafort hasn't talked if he is in fact sitting on highly incriminating information against Trump. Is it possible he enjoys solitary confinement?

Wait, so there's at least one person in this whole mess who isn't implicating Trump? Well fuck then that must mean Trump is definitely irrefutably objectively innocent of everything!

Let's talk about Manafort.....

what would you like to know?

I don't actually care about Manafort except that it's nice to see a criminal get busted. You're the one who kept posting on his trial like every hiccup was some kind of proof that Mueller was an incompetent and/or vindictive prosecutor, spinning the Fox News line.

It's just funny how you then shut up about it as soon as the verdicts came in. Oh, I guess Mueller did have a case.

Now you're trying to act like there's still some controversy over the whole thing, or that it somehow proves Trump is innocent.

"Ya, I worked with a guy who got convicted of some crime. He never implicated me in it, so therefore I'm irrefutably objectively innocent of everything related to that crime, or any other unrelated crime, Your Honor."

Lol, good luck with that defense buddy.

F. Lee Bailey you are not.

[Poopadoop]

Do I have to explain to you that when rich people say "cash" they mean "liquid assets" and not necessarily physical currency, right?

How do you know this? Oh wait, you heard it on Fox?

Ya, I heard that when rich people say 'use cash', they really mean send someone to threaten her and her kid. Do I have to explain that to you?

Are you feeling ok?

it feels great to have a much better job and be so much smarter than you, yes.

[BananaStand]

Then why keep posting about his trial like it's actually a win for Trump if he gets off? Who cares?.

It would have satisfied me to see Mueller fail. That's all. Why do you incessantly post about your hopes for political figures to fail?

It's just funny how you then shut up about it as soon as the verdicts came in.

Lol, did any other significant news break within 20 minutes of the verdicts? Literally, within 20 minutes..

Now you're trying to act like there's still some controversy over the whole thing

What controversy would that be? Trump needed help with his campaign. The RNC recommended Manafort. Manafort worked for about two and half months, then Trump found out he was corrupt and fired him.

I'm not trying to avoid this topic. I'm happy to discuss it. Why does Manafot's guilt extend to Trump? Why is this such a "victory" for the Mueller investigation? HOw does digging up a 12 year old tax case validate the existence of the Mueller probe?

I'm happy to discuss all these topics with you if you like.

[Poopadoop]

Do I have to explain to you that when rich people say "cash" they mean "liquid assets" and not necessarily physical currency, right?


Yes. That's exactly how it's supposed to work.

So wait, this is confusing. First you say 'cash isn't cash, it's liquid assets'. Then I ask if Cohen is supposed to use his own cash, and you say 'yeah of course happens all the time'. So was this currency he was using or was Cohen making these payments using kilos of coke or stolen diamonds or what?

[BananaStand]

Cohen set up LLC's. Through those companies he paid Stormy, and reimbursed the National Equirer for paying off McDougal.

He added his own fee. And then entered into a repayment agreement with a Trump corporation to pay Cohen's LLC's $35,000 per month for 12 months for a total of $420K (The two payments + Cohens handling fee).

Paper exists supporting all of this.

What exactly is impeachable?

[BananaStand]

So wait, this is confusing. First you say 'cash isn't cash, it's liquid assets'. Then I ask if Cohen is supposed to use his own cash, and you say 'yeah of course happens all the time'. So was this currency he was using or was Cohen making these payments using kilos of coke or stolen diamonds or what?

Checks, wire transfers, ACH transactions, things like that. I just wanna make sure you're not imagining an untraceable transaction with stacks of bills in a briefcase and two guys meeting at a bus station. I know how retarded you can be when you wanna believe something bad about Trump.

[Poopadoop]

It would have satisfied me to see Mueller fail. That's all. Why do you incessantly post about your hopes for political figures to fail?

Lol you are a moron if you really thought he might not get Manafort on at least some of those 18 charges. You really are pathetically dumb to even hope for that.

What controversy would that be?

That's my point. Who cares? No-one but you here posted about his trial until it was over. You were jerking off here about every little hiccup in the trial and before you could come he was convicted. It's sad, I agree. What I don't get is why you now want to make a big deal about your failed jerkoff attempt.

[BananaStand]

What I don't get is why you now want to make a big deal about your failed jerkoff attempt.

Wait a minute....

Weren't you criticizing my silence on the issue just a minute ago? Now you don't get why I want to make a big deal about it.

Confirmed low IQ.

[Poopadoop]

Checks, wire transfers, ACH transactions, things like that. I just wanna make sure you're not imagining an untraceable transaction with stacks of bills in a briefcase and two guys meeting at a bus station. I know how retarded you can be when you wanna believe something bad about Trump.

Fuck off with this nonsense. Everyone knows the point of paying someone in cash is that it doesn't leave a paper trail. All the other things you mentioned do, and that's why dumbass Trump suggested cash, and Cohen is then heard to say 'nonononono, it has to be a check'.

[BananaStand]

Fuck off with this nonsense. Everyone knows the point of paying someone in cash is that it doesn't leave a paper trail.

Except there is a paper trail...