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 Originally Posted by oskar
If someone is sending death threats to JK Rowling on twitter, that's bad, but I don't think it should affect the broad national politics of the nation of Italy.
I'm not. Note that you brought JKR into this convo, not me. This has very little to do with JKR.
Once again you are saying "women" feel they are being encroached by trans women when you should be saying "JK Rowling".
Do you really think that JKR is the only person with concerns? Do you think it's her that's leading this counteroffensive against trans activists?
No, when I say "women" i mean a very large amount of actual women, not a single person.
I would even dare say most people who vote for anti trans, reactionary religious nutjobs like Meloni, are not women who worry about bathroom etiquette, but men who want to do away with actual women's rights like abortion and work place equality which Meloni is certainly threatening.
I think you're very wrong here. It's not men who have a problem with trans activism, because the activists are not coming after men.
Well, men who respect women's boundaries and support them do have a problem with this activism, and of course there will be some "ew trannies" type men who also vote along these lines. But if you think that "bathroom etiquette" (it's a lot more nuanced than that but I'll accept that term) isn't a factor that concerns women, you couldn't be more wrong.
This sucks, just like it sucks when a man in a dress goes into a women's toilet and preys on women. It happens too. I'm not going to get into a tit-for-tat exchange of links supporting different sides of the debate because neither of us are in the wrong to be alarmed by what we see, and in both cases its rare.
The solution is transgender facilities, but the activists oppose this. This opposition is hurting trans people because it slows down real social progress.
idk who Buck Angel is, not sure of its relevance.
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