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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    What's wrong with that? That's what primaries are for, right?
    Sure, if you say so.


    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    Silly, wishful thinking of a demagogue right here.
    Whatever.


    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    This is the vast majority, for sure.
    Pride cometh before a fall.



    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    You call then "ignorant menial job types". God you're such a fucking ass hole. You know, you could call them "honest people who do all the hard work and pay all the bills in this country". The irony here is that the Democrats used to be the party of the working class. They used to be the ones standing up for the blue collar worker, fighting back government regulations and oppressions that are detrimental to a free and fair labor market.
    Sorry, was your dad a coal miner? Didn't mean to strike a nerve there.

    And yeah, if you have no education and do a job that requires zero thinking, that to me makes you ignorant. Doesn't make you a bad person, just not necessarily a sophisticated thinker.


    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    Now you call them "ignorant menial job types". And you wonder why they vote for Trump.
    Well I wouldn't call them that or 'deplorables' or anything similar if I was running for office. That would be obviously impolitic.


    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    These people were all on the left. Now they're not. Do you think that's Trump's fault???????
    I think he exploited their ignorance brilliantly. And I think Hillary's snobbery cost her. Next time it won't be Hillary, and practically anyone will be more appealing than her.


    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    Are they wrong??
    Dunno. Seems there's a real lack of appreciation for what gov't does in your country. Maybe because it is so corrupt. But that doesn't mean you don't need a gov't, you just need one that isn't ruled by big money, where presidents don't hire half of Goldman Sachs to be in their finance department, for example.


    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    Don't confuse anti-left with being far-right. The two can be mutually exclusive.
    Fine, but you stated yourself a good part of your motivation is to see the left in pain. And if that means picking someone far-right you don't seem to have a problem with that.


    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    I would welcome that....assuming those changes can be paid for. Still waiting to hear how any of that is going to happen.....

    You mean bankruptcy?
    Nonsense.

    https://www.ariscommunity.com/users/...credit-ratings

    See all those countries in green on that map? Those are the ones with the highest credit rating, and all a step above the US I might add. You don't get that by going bankrupt.
  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    if you do a job that requires zero thinking, that to me makes you ignorant.
    Psychologists = Ignorant. Got it.

    I think he exploited their ignorance brilliantly.
    Exploited? So he didn't cut their taxes, increase their wages, and decrease their unemployment??? He just hoodwinked them?

    Next time it won't be Hillary, and practically anyone will be more appealing than her.
    A Hillary rerun would do better than either Harris, Booker, or Warren. Fact.

    Fine, but you stated yourself a good part of your motivation is to see the left in pain. And if that means picking someone far-right you don't seem to have a problem with that.
    Then allow me to rephrase. A good part of my motivation is to see ideologically possessed people in pain. Someone far-right would also qualify.

    Who are you talking about anyway? Kessler? Spencer? I'd probably vote for a 3rd party. Hannity? Shapiro? I'd probably stick it to the libs.

    See all those countries in green on that map? Those are the ones with the highest credit rating, and all a step above the US I might add. You don't get that by going bankrupt.
    Find another map, one that shows household debt instead of government debt. Let me know how many of your green countries turn red.
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    Psychologists = Ignorant. Got it.
    Nice ad bananum. I'm so in a world of hurt right now lol.

    Just because they couldn't help you doesn't mean psychologists aren't clever. One can't hold back the sea with their hands.


    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    Exploited? So he didn't cut their taxes,
    wat? you mean that extra few dollars a month is meaningful somehow?



    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    increase their wages, and decrease their unemployment??? He just hoodwinked them?
    You don't have to lie to exploit. The fact that coal mines are opening is hardly the sign of a brilliant economist. This isn't 1850.


    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    A Hillary rerun would do better than either Harris, Booker, or Warren. Fact.
    "Facts" without evidence. Fact.

    Honestly I think a dictionary would really help you.


    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    Then allow me to rephrase. A good part of my motivation is to see ideologically possessed people in pain. Someone far-right would also qualify.
    Just curious, do you go on forums where people are predominantly right wing and insult and belittle people there?


    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    Find another map, one that shows household debt instead of government debt. Let me know how many of your green countries turn red.
    Here you go.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-06-04/debt-nations

    US ranks seventh.

    So tell me, what have you got to lose?
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Oooohhhh, and look at all the socialist cuckdoms in the top 6. Wonder if that's a coincidence???????

    Also, what's the year-over-year trend looking like in the US compared to, for example, Denmark????

    Do we need to have a lesson on how to read charts?
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    Oooohhhh, and look at all the socialist cuckdoms in the top 6. Wonder if that's a coincidence???????

    Also, what's the year-over-year trend looking like in the US compared to, for example, Denmark????

    Do we need to have a lesson on how to read charts?
    Apparently we do. We can start with a lesson on how not to cherry pick your data.

    If the US is the least socialist country on that list and has a middling-to-high personal debt ranking, seems to me the issues are likely orthogonal to one another. There's hardly a strong correlation if any between socialism and personal debt.

    Also, regarding the year-over-year trend, maybe you didn't hear about the housing crash in 2008 and noticed that there's a clear correlation between the countries hit hardest by that (US and UK) and a reduction in debt between 2007 and 2010.

    here's another chart.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/defa...0602_debt1.jpg

    Now, before you misintrepret this one too, please note that the US is still in the middle of the group. This to me does not show socialism makes people go bankrupt. Or maybe it's only the lefties in the US who have personal debt I dunno.

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