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    It's institutional discrimination. It's an unavoidable aspect of Islam... it is, by its very nature, oppressive.

    I'm not the oppressor. I don't have a hold over anyone, I'm not making anyone believe anything. I'm simply observing that Islam is oppressive, dangerous, and a relic from the past that has not evolved and will probably never evolve because it's so dominated by men, who like being dominant, and the rest of the world let it happen on the basis of "equality", like it's more important to protect their fucking feelings than it is to protect the fundamental rights of humans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    It's institutional discrimination. It's an unavoidable aspect of Islam... it is, by its very nature, oppressive.
    Still ignoring that the vast majority of this discrimination you speak of is directed by Muslims at other Muslims.
    The religion isn't the problem; radical interpretations thereof is the problem.
    Just like radical interpretations of Christianity lead some Christians to all sorts of oppressive, murderous shit.
    Or radical anything.

    The problem isn't an old book. The problem is the mindset that allows someone to believe that they know what's best for someone else, and that they're willing to oppress or otherwise hurt them "for their own good."

    Any honest person whom is trying to be good and embracing a religion to guide them on that path is going to be oppressed if you take that from them. Telling them that their path to goodness is, in fact, bad is a hard sell. Good luck with that.

    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I'm not the oppressor.
    You're saying things on a public forum which are directed at a huge swath of humans using blanket statements.
    We've discussed this before, and you know full well that your criticisms only apply to some Muslims, yet you continue to choose language which does not make that distinction.
    You are choosing to use language that you know does not best express your thoughts, and furthermore that language is hurtful to any good Muslim whom is not an apologist and whom may well themselves be oppressed by other Muslims.

    So yes. You are.

    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I don't have a hold over anyone, I'm not making anyone believe anything.
    What does that even matter? You're speaking in a public forum. Your words influence people's thoughts.

    No one can make anyone believe anything, but you're saying ignorant things which you do not fully stand by (unless your position has changed to unnuanced bigotry).

    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I'm simply observing that Islam is oppressive, dangerous, and a relic from the past that has not evolved and will probably never evolve because it's so dominated by men, who like being dominant, and the rest of the world let it happen on the basis of "equality", like it's more important to protect their fucking feelings than it is to protect the fundamental rights of humans.
    Which is an exposition of your own ignorance, choices to remain ignorant, and your willingness to say half-baked, hurtful things about people whom you have never met.

    I've seen better from you on a consistent basis for years.
    You're not a hater. So I don't see why you can say such asinine crap online when you'd surely have more decorum in a face to face conversation with a Muslim.

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