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[wufwugy]

Less than 100 people (presumably Americans) killed in jihadist attacks in the past 15 years?

What's the problem, here?

Seems like cowardice is driving this issue.

Tell that to Constantinople. Tell it to the many millions who have been raped, murdered, or enslaved for the purpose of Islamism. Just because America has so profoundly rejected a political ideology on par with Nazism that our casualties are scant doesn't mean that political ideology isn't hellbent on our subjugation.

[MadMojoMonkey]

that our casualties are scant doesn't mean that political ideology isn't hellbent on our subjugation.

... but they're so bad at it.

[BananaStand]

... but they're so bad at it.

Maybe they would be better if we didn't spend the last decade and a half just rompin and stompin Iraq and Afghanistan

Just sayin...

Edit: Also, if we didn't leave so much of our own shit over there, they'd all pretty much have their dicks in their hands at this point.

[Poopadoop]

Maybe they would be better if we didn't spend the last decade and a half just rompin and stompin Iraq and Afghanistan

Just sayin...

Congrats on conquering a couple of third world countries. The British Empire would be proud.

No idea how ISIS started I guess...

[BananaStand]

Congrats on conquering a couple of third world countries. The British Empire would be proud.

No idea how ISIS started I guess...

Why does it matter how ISIS started? If we wiped them out tomorrow, they'd just be replaced by some other angry entity bent on a caliphate. As long as there is violent, inflammatory, oppressive, Wahabbi bullshit spewing out of Saudi Arabia, there will always be radical jihadists. I thought we agreed on that?

My only point is that we spent a decade and a half diminishing terrorist networks and their support from rogue nations. Certainly that made a difference and is a big reason why they're so bad. They're on their 7th string quarterbacks at this point.

I don't think it follows logic to now say "well they only kill 7 people a year, why are we so aggressive?"

Remember the head and shoulders commercial? "But you don't have dandruff!!" EXACTLY!!

[Poopadoop]

Quebec mosque attacker was student Alexandre Bissonnette.

Francois Deschamps, an official with an advocacy group, Welcome to Refugees, said the suspect was known for his far-right views.

Birth of radical Christian alt-right terror?

[BananaStand]

Quebec mosque attacker was student Alexandre Bissonnette.

Who was the second guy?

EDIT: Nevermind. Cops changed their story

[wufwugy]

Quebec mosque attacker

These types have had terrorists among them as far back as they go. What they don't have is organizational ideology and mobilization to that effect.

[BananaStand]

Quebec mosque attacker was student Alexandre Bissonnette.
Birth of radical Christian alt-right terror?

Can someone explain to me why this is being called a "terrorist" attack?

By definition, Terrorism requires a political motivation. The last report that I saw, used the term "terrorist attack" in the headline, but the body of the article stated that police are still unclear as to motive.

Also, 'intimidation' is a key factor in defining terrorism. By all accounts, this guy is working alone, and there is no threat, or suggestion of future violence from a larger organization. That kinda removes any ongoing fear.

If this guy is a terrorist, then so is Dylan Roof. Why are we re-branding hate crimes as terrorism when it happens at a mosque?

[wufwugy]

No idea how ISIS started I guess...

It goes way back. Some dude named Muhammos. Muhamalam? Mumahhad? Why am I forgetting this one? Anyways, he killed lots of people and his followers are supposed to follow him, or something. I don't really remember. Mahummad? I think that's it.

[Jack Sawyer]

It goes way back. Some dude named Muhammos. Muhamalam? Mumahhad? Why am I forgetting this one? Anyways, he killed lots of people and his followers are supposed to follow him, or something. I don't really remember. Mahummad? I think that's it.

From Ben Swann himself, same dude from Pizzagate Special Edition




And another from Vox. Sorry, can only embed one vid per post

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzmO6RWy1v8

[wufwugy]

From Ben Swann himself, same dude from Pizzagate Special Edition

Yep.

And ISIS is a renaissance. The caliphate goes back to Muhammad.

[Jack Sawyer]

Maybe they would be better if we didn't spend the last decade and a half just rompin and stompin Iraq and Afghanistan

Just sayin...

Edit: Also, if we didn't leave so much of our own shit over there, they'd all pretty much have their dicks in their hands at this point.

So you do know perfectly well who the real culprit of all this brouhaha is

[wufwugy]

The ineffectiveness of western governments at creating sustained peace in the Middle East doesn't mean they are to blame. Blame those who espouse the horrible political ideologies of murder and subjugation that have taken over the regions instead.

[Jack Sawyer]

The ineffectiveness of western governments at creating sustained peace in the Middle East doesn't mean they are to blame. Blame those who espouse the horrible political ideologies of murder and subjugation that have taken over the regions instead.

This is a very complex issue, but it has a few very simple actors. The blame can be spread around, and if you are lookin for a cause you will find it. As long as you are looking for it.


There is many many many layers to this, and there are many many issues going on at the same time in the Middle East. The sum of these issues manifests itself as the malaise we have on our hands right now.


In any case, the only real ways of dealing with problems is finding the actual cause(s) and fixing it(them), making the problem go away eventually. Hint: Goatfuckers Intl. aka Terror Inc. is not the cause of the disease, just a symptom.


For those that mentioned the Mossadegh incident in ’53, impressive.

[wufwugy]

This is a very complex issue, but it has a few very simple actors. The blame can be spread around, and if you are lookin for a cause you will find it. As long as you are looking for it.


There is many many many layers to this, and there are many many issues going on at the same time in the Middle East. The sum of these issues manifests itself as the malaise we have on our hands right now.


In any case, the only real ways of dealing with problems is finding the actual cause(s) and fixing it(them), making the problem go away eventually. Hint: Goatfuckers Intl. aka Terror Inc. is not the cause of the disease, just a symptom.


For those that mentioned the Mossadegh incident in ’53, impressive.

I agree with all except the bolded. Islamism goes way back. Way before oil and America. Islamism was there before foreign governments provided it with a new opening.

[BananaStand]

So you do know perfectly well who the real culprit of all this brouhaha is

Absolutely.

This 'brouhaha' was caused by an incoming president, bent on fulfilling a campaign promise and boosting his own popularity, hastily implementing a policy despite the best advice of those deemed most knowledgeable about the problem.

Remember....when Obama pulled out of Iraq.

And now here we are