Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post

Ok. Religion also has nothing to do with why we're closing off immigration for three months.
Trump has been bellowing about defeating terror, a muslim ban and a muslim registry for so long now. How are people supposed to interpret it when he bans immigration from certain countries that are also muslim? Further, what is the purpose of banning Iranians when they've never been linked to a terror attack ever (or at least not since 1979). Meanwhile countries like S.A. that support ISIS (and by proxy terror) get a free pass. Makes no sense.


Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
If your point is that Saudi Arabians are some of the worst people going, you won't get much argument from me. But again, you're refusing to see the motivation behind the "ban list". It's not about who's citizens have done bad in the past. It's about our ability to vet people. And on that front S.A., Pakistan, Qatar, and UAE are cooperative, Iran, Yemen, Syria and Somalia are not.
I seriously doubt all of those countries are keeping terror lists. It's not like your immigration guy is going to call up Pakistan and say 'this Ahmed guy is he a terrorist?' and the Pakistani official will be able to tell you.



Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
So you're saying that the whole point of the "ban" (your word) was to antagonize certain countries for not being our allies? To shame them for not being our friends? The "ban" isn't based on just who's an ally and who isn't, it's about who can provide sufficient vetting information to satisfy our National Security concerns...and who can't. It's just common sense that you see a correlation between levels of cooperation, and status as an ally. Friends help each other.
I really don't understand its purpose. Or better yet I have some ideas about its purpose but they have little to do with a nearly non-existent terror threat. My beef is with it's complete opposition to what I'd like America to be, and the way it's being implemented in this rushed and haphazard way.