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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by poop
    Your theory is basically that the SS, or at least someone in it, just didn't feel like doing their job that day.
    You never had a bad day at work?

    And how did these one or two guys think that was going to pan out for them personally?
    If you think the target is a bad enough person, you can give fewer fucks about the consequences. Would you take a bullet in the head to kill Hitler in 1935? A lot of people would. If you're convinced Trump is literallyHitler, you don't care about consequences because you convince yourself you're a hero and that half the world will think you're a hero. Deluded and narcissistic, perhaps, but some humans do have these traits.

    Also, it's pretty difficult to prove that someone saw a threat and ignored it. So it's not unreasonable to think someone could believe there will be no consequences if they play it right.

    Surely someone would notice if there was lax security if it was happening every time.
    Depends. I mean, how do you know a state sniper is not watching a rooftop? You can only know if someone is able to get on that roof and fire off a few rounds.

    The general public will only become aware of security lapses when it's obvious security has been breached.

    Why would you need crisis actors to fake an assassination attempt?
    Because if there are no crisis actors, then real people, actual civilians, got shot. Some people are indeed disputing this, and I'm sure you hinted at it yourself when talking about whether someone actually died.

    The difference between faking an event with nobody getting hurt, and faking an event were people get shot and die, is massive. It's not only political suicide if it goes wrong for Trump, it's death row. And just like people exist that want to take Trump's head off, so too do people exist that would like to see Trump go to prison.

    If Trump is remotely culpable for that man's death, then someone will talk.

    Point is there's precedence for the SOP of the SS to be compromised.
    There's also precedence for highly skilled and disciplined human beings having a shit day at work. It only has to happen once in a career.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Because if there are no crisis actors, then real people, actual civilians, got shot. Some people are indeed disputing this, and I'm sure you hinted at it yourself when talking about whether someone actually died.
    I'm afraid you're confusing me with someone else. I always believed people actually did get shot, I just questioned whether Trump was one of them.
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
    also,
    I'd like to be called Lord Poopy His Most Gloriously Excellent.
  3. #3
    It is hard to believe, indeed absurd, that a supposed elite security force would allow this to happen, that their standards could be allowed to slip so much. But it's even harder to believe that half of the team are in on some plot, and are willing to put their unknowing colleagues and civilians at risk. It's harder to believe the deep state or CIA or whoever would recruit someone who can't shoot to shoot a former president protected by an armed security team including snipers. It's harder to believe that he didn't really get shot and he's acting hurt while one of his supporters bleeds to death. It's harder to believe the whole thing was staged.

    It's an unlikely event, however you look at it. Complacency seems to me the least absurd, even if it remains somewhat absurd.
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    Biden stepped out of the race and put forward Kamala as his alternate.

    The question was posed and I don't know the answer:
    Is there any other example from all of history where a white male with (some call it) the most powerful job in the world stepped down and gave the job to a non-white, non-male?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    But it's even harder to believe that half of the team are in on some plot, and are willing to put their unknowing colleagues and civilians at risk.
    Why would it require half of them to be on it? The people on the ground are just doing what they're told. It's whoever's giving the orders that's suspect here.



    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    It's completely absurd to believe the deep state or CIA or whoever would recruit someone who can't shoot to shoot a former president protected by an armed security team including snipers.
    fyp.



    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    It's harder to believe that he didn't really get shot and he's acting hurt while one of his supporters bleeds to death.
    You think he cares more about himself getting to be POTUS again and stay out of prison, or about some rando in Pennsylvania?



    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    It's harder to believe the whole thing was staged.
    We all agree that's impossible. I don't know why you keep bringing it up like it needs to be entertained. You might as well say it's even harder to believe it was done by the Alien Lizard people.



    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Complacency seems to me the least absurd, even if it is completely absurd.
    fyp
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
    also,
    I'd like to be called Lord Poopy His Most Gloriously Excellent.

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