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[Poopadoop]

Yeah I don't know what the evidence of widespread people trafficking in the UK is. I did read a story a few years back of some east Asian immigrants who died in the back of a truck somewhere in England. Didn't have anything to do with dinghies though afaik.

More to the point, none of the people in the dinghies are traffickers. If we accept that they're all asylum seekers, their means of getting to our country is irrelevant imo.

[OngBonga]

More to the point, none of the people in the dinghies are traffickers. If we accept that they're asylum seekers, their means of getting to our country is irrelevant imo.

First sentence, no problem. Second, problem.

It matters. It's relevant because it's allowing a criminal and highly immoral business to thrive. And it matters because for every person that enters illegally, that's one less person who can enter legally. Why do you want to prioritise those who enter illegally? Why do you think the UK as a state should be forced to accept these asylum seekers instead of the ones filling in paperwork in Paris or whatever?

[Poopadoop]

It's relevant because it's allowing a criminal and highly immoral business to thrive.

So basically you're more worried that some scumbags in France are making a quick buck by exploiting the refugees than about the refugee's rights to asylum? Seems like a strange way of prioritising things. What if someone in Switzerland mugs a refugee and takes his wallet? Should we refuse that refugee then on the grounds that we're stopping crime?

And it matters because for every person that enters illegally, that's one less person who can enter legally.

Not how it works. A person crossing on a dinghy getting picked up on the beach by the coast guard is not stopping someone else coming across on a ferry. It's not a zero-sum game.

Why do you want to prioritise those who enter illegally? Why do you think the UK as a state should be forced to accept these asylum seekers instead of the ones filling in paperwork in Paris or whatever?

Who said anything about giving them priority? Again, you're assuming it's a zero-sum game, like someone in the Paris office is saying "we had 20 refugees land by dinghy today near Dover, therefore we're going to take 20 less applications in Paris. Sorry Ahmed, but it's back to Syria for you."