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[Poopadoop]

Not sure why this is upsetting you. Paris isn't even that far from Calais, neither is Brussels. It makes sense for the UK to want Ukrainian refugees to avoid Calais, given that there are already huge migrant problems in Calais.

Do you think these people are tourists on vacation? How do you know they even have enough money to get to Paris or Brussels?

Basically what we're doing amounts to trying our best to keep them out of the UK and make them someone else's problem for as long as we possibly can. It's just callous.

[OngBonga]

Do you think these people are tourists on vacation? How do you know they even have enough money to get to Paris or Brussels?

They presumably had enough money to get to Calais. And if they get stuck there, then France needs to transport them to Calais.

If a bunch of people were stuck in Dover trying to get to France, and France was saying "go to London", and they were saying "we don't have the money to get to London", then you would, rightfully, argue that the UK has a responsibility to help get these people to London.

The UK are totally within their rights to insist on centralising the refugee issue. Otherwise people could just turn up anywhere along the French coast and demand the UK come get them. You're expectation of what the UK should do about people in Calais is unreasonable. It's France's problem, not the UK's.

Basically what we're doing amounts to trying our best to keep them out of the UK and make them someone else's problem for as long as we possibly can. It's just callous.

This might be true. But let's say we weren't doing this. We're still being reasonable by saying "don't go to Calais".

The topic I raised is the UK's shitty response to the refugee crisis. Your contribution has been "yeah, but whatbout [insert whatever other country you can find a reason to criticise here]?" Rinse and repeat.

Ok, let's talk about minor domestic issues instead of major international issues.

This is a minor domestic issue because I do not believe there is a single person trapped in Ukraine because the UK is being difficult. The people we are talking about are safe in Europe.