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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Actually, getting the plain facts is the best way to do that.

    Watching how the facts are spun, distorted, or flat out altered is just a really good way to get your biases confirmed and/or be confused about what is actually going on.
    Are you just determined to be a shit today or what?

    tell me professor....where does one get "the plain facts"?
  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    tell me professor....where does one get "the plain facts"?
    Nowhere in the MSM, that's the problem.

    But, you can find sources that aren't openly biased. Just because you choose to ignore them doesn't mean they don't exist.

    Edit: And when i say "you" I mean it in the general, collective sense. I don't mean specifically "you, banana"
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    But, you can find sources that aren't openly biased.
    Not "openly" bias huh? Sounds totally legit.

    I'd much rather have the bias in the open, than hidden or obscured. Wouldn't you?


    If you're trying to tell me that UN-biased sources exist....then I call bullshit.
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post

    I'd much rather have the bias in the open, than hidden or obscured. Wouldn't you?
    I already answered that and I already told you why. Go back two posts and read it again. Consult a dictionary if you need to.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    If you're trying to tell me that UN-biased sources exist....then I call bullshit.
    Of course you do.
  5. #5
    Also it's not that their bias is 'open', as in they come out and say 'here's a biased report, enjoy' it's just blatant. There are plenty of people who can't see blatant bias if it smacks them in the face. There's others who see it and since it matches their own bias, it doesn't register as bias.

    Having a 'hiidden bias' is much more difficult to accomplish, which is why it's very rare. A bias almost always makes itself visible.
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Also it's not that their bias is 'open', as in they come out and say 'here's a biased report, enjoy' it's just blatant.
    Not sure what you're watching, but I see Fox acknowledge it's conservative tilt all the time. MSNBC clearly knows what it is. So does Vox. So does Ben Shapiro. So does Breitbart. NYT and WaPo pretty much admit to be tabloids now.

    CNN, for a while to be the "objective" news sources. But it didn't work. Everyone knows what they are too.
  7. #7
    The whole point of propaganda is to try to present the information as if its credible. You don't do that by being open about what your bias is. If you preface a report with 'fyi, this is a real biased line of shit we're about to feed you here', no-one is going to believe it.

    Nonetheless, one can assess bias by recognizing where facts are being distorted/changed into lies, or various rhetorical tricks are being used or where the presenter is giving an editorial. I don't care what Tucker Carlson or Rachel Maddow (or you for that matter) think the Mueller Report means; I ignore that. I look for reports of what the substance of the report is, and what the underlying laws are. Then I reach my own conclusions. That doesn't mean they're the correct ones, and I'm aware of that. But they are mine and they aren't reached because I watched two different people give polar opposite bullshit interpretations, and then pick the bullshit I prefer.
    Last edited by Poopadoop; 04-24-2019 at 08:41 AM.
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    I don't care what Tucker Carlson or Rachel Maddow (or you for that matter) think the Mueller Report means;
    There's a difference between 'not caring' and deliberately being contrary because of your compulsive oppositional defiance disorder.

    I ignore that.
    No you don't

    I look for reports of what the substance of the report is, and what the underlying laws are. Then I reach my own conclusions.
    No, you clearly don't give a fuck what the law is. Don't try to play that game. And you're not looking at the substance of the report. You're cherry picking confirmation bias to support the conclusions you inferred in the beginning. For example, you keep saying that Trump "tried" to fire Mueller. That's not in the report man.

    That doesn't mean they're the correct ones, and I'm aware of that. But they are mine and they aren't reached because I watched two different people give polar opposite bullshit interpretations, and then pick the bullshit I prefer.
    That's not how I reach my conclusions either. The point of consuming polar opposite news sources is because you can conclude that anywhere they overlap, are facts.

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