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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    This falls flat because there aren't 3 options in Mueller's case.
    Fine here's a binary example

    Let's say that water represents Russian contacts. Liquid water is fine. But if any of that water is ice, it represents criminal collusion. So we send in Robert Mueller to "investigate the water", but really what we're asking him to do is "see if there is any ice"

    And ice is being defined as "solid water"

    Mueller, is unable to declare something solid. He can only declare something not solid if the evidence is definitive.

    Mueller investigates some water, finds that it's all liquid, and declares that "not solid". Then he finds some mist in the air. But he can't observe it enough to determine if it really is steam (or 'not solid water'), or if it is some other substance in the air like smoke or dust, which would be suspended solids. So he makes no finding on that.

    In Poop/MMM world, that means that Mueller found water that was not not solid and that means ZOMG COLLUSION, when really all it means is that Mueller found "not liquid", which isn't a designation that exists in his lexicon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Fine here's a binary example
    Lol, all you've done is change the analogy so there's the three states of water are liquid, solid, or mist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    In Poop/MMM world, that means that Mueller found water that was not not solid and that means ZOMG COLLUSION, when really all it means is that Mueller found "not liquid", which isn't a designation that exists in his lexicon.
    I haven't read everything in the past 3 pages, but I assume that poop's never said collusion 'cause poop knows that collusion is a red herring, since it's not a crime on any level of US law. Cooperation to deceive is not illegal. Neither part of it is illegal, either.

    Anyone talking about collusion is either ignorant of this fact or is chasing ratings. They can be ignored from the adult talk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    collusion is a red herring, since it's not a crime on any level of US law.
    This blows my mind. After everything you've posted today, you're telling me you get this?

    Ok...follow me now.......

    if Mueller is handcuffed against saying Trump committed a crime......and collusion is not a crime.....then why can't Mueller say "Trump colluded"
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    The point here is that the left was so sure....and I mean SOOOOO sure that Mueller was going to report something on Trump that got him booted out of office. It was just the precursor to inevitable impeachment.

    The fact that didn't happen and even a half-impeachment (house only) is triple digit odds at best... means that Trump wins.

    His poll numbers dipped for like 3 days, and then rebounded. This didn't put a scratch on him.

    If you wanna talk about what's interesting or what might happen after he's out of office, go ahead. It's loser talk.

    And if every media outlet and 2020 candidate is spouting loser talk....what does that make them?

    That's my only point. regardless of what you want to think...I'm not a Trump sycophant, I have plenty of not great stuff to say about the guy. But I won't say he's a traitor. I won't say he's not a patriot. I won't say he's dumb. And I wont' say he obstructed justice just because he was pissed off about the fact he was surrounded by a cabal of illegal leakers seeking to frame him for treason.

    if you see any of that in the Mueller report, then you were never going to see anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    If you wanna talk about what's interesting or what might happen after he's out of office, go ahead. It's loser talk.

    And if every media outlet and 2020 candidate is spouting loser talk....what does that make them?
    Lol
    What are you mentally trapped at the age of 11?
    "loser talk"
    lol
    dude
    Seriously... go back to your carpentry hobby. The grown ups are talking.
    Run along, now.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    That's my only point. regardless of what you want to think...I'm not a Trump sycophant, I have plenty of not great stuff to say about the guy. But I won't say he's a traitor. I won't say he's not a patriot. I won't say he's dumb. And I wont' say he obstructed justice just because he was pissed off about the fact he was surrounded by a cabal of illegal leakers seeking to frame him for treason.

    if you see any of that in the Mueller report, then you were never going to see anything else.
    You're not listening. You're trying to make this into some huge grand thing where we're against you or something.
    Not the case.
    We're against stupidity. To the extent that you're behaving stupidly, then yes, we are against you.

    For the record, I'm not saying he obstructed justice. I'm saying that your claim that the MR says he didn't obstruct justice is pure fantasy.
    Your ambition to push other views upon me is just painting you into a corner with a dunce cap.
    I'm not trying to guess any political future.
    I'm pointing out that you're pretending to have deep, adult understanding of these issues, but all you got is spoon-fed nonsense from popular ratings whores.

    You seriously went back to the wall issue? You seriously pulled out that nonsense article that we debunked years ago AGAIN?!
    Grow up. Your mental position on this is stuck in a rut and you can't see it.
    That stupid article says "only 1 of the men managed to throw a grapple over the wall to scale it" or some fucking nonsense. Like as if it takes more than 1 failure to show that the idea is really, really stupid.
    You like to bring up science. Wake up to that one. It only takes 1 verified data point to destroy all the prior assumptions and assurances.
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