**** Elections thread *****

[BananaStand]

Alraight alright alright, bananastand, look. Let's try to reach a consensus here. Would you agree with me that if you were the president, what you say and do would matter a hell of a lot more than if you were a regular joe?

Well, I would argue that Trump was never a regular joe. But I think I get what you mean. However...

Trump stopped being a regular joe when he announced his candidacy. After that, everything he said and did mattered a hell of a lot more. So yes, I agree with you. It matters more.

But after 15 months of it, the American public decided that it doesn't matter enough to keep him from being a good president. To me, that should be the end of it. After that, every time he does or says something that is totally consistent with his character and behavior to this point....the non-Trump fans need to just suck it up. Playing "gotchya" on minor, hair splitting, details on irrelevant matters is petty, sore-loser-ness.

We have people like Poop running rampant through the MSM who like to zero-in on literal inconsistencies and blow that up into an accusation of stupidity, insanity, or delusion.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/...cold-sane.html

[Poopadoop]

The reason people hone in on his falsehoods is that the guy is constantly raving about Fake News, all the while continuously generating it. And when he isn't, his team is. It's beyond hypocritical at this point. Pointing that out isn't playing 'gotcha', it's simply pointing out a serious and ongoing issue with the guy's credibility.

If Trump were an honest broker being unfairly vilified by Fake News, he might have a case to make. But to many people, it appears instead that he is trying to discredit the press for his own gain, which many compare to the actions of a wannabe dictator.

And sorry, the argument that people knew what they were getting and enough still voted for him to give him the election, and therefore you can't complain about him now, is just bullshit.