**** Elections thread *****

[Jack Sawyer]

oh puh-leeze. You're making up facts if you think Trump is actually arguing that a Terrorist attack occurred in Sweden two nights ago.

I don’t know what to tell you man. I linked the video for your convenience, so I assume you saw it, saw the facts I presented in the now veritas Trump Tweets medium, and still say I’m somehow making up facts.


I’m flabbergasted. Appalled and flabbergasted.

Not even in the same universe man. Your job interview probably involved at most...5 people. Trump's job interview was broadcast world wide, and some 128 million people had a say in it. He's not perfect. No candidate is. But once he's elected, you take the good with the bad.

That’s now how it goes. You see, there are a lot of actors that now have to deal with him who were not involved in any way, shape or form in the election.

You keep saying "lied". That's fake news/alternative facts. It's entirely possible he really thought his margin of victory was the largest, based on something he heard or read, and believed it. Who cares? He was corrected, during the press conference, and his response was (paraphrasing) "ok, well that's what somebody told me, if it's wrong, whatever, I still kicked ass in the election". Why then does the media go into defcon 2 ranting about how he "lied". What's the point of that? Shephard Smith (who works for FOX) threw a fucking tantrum over it. Why so much anger?

Because it establishes a baseline. Imagine, well, let’s say Obama or W so I don’t use Trump again, claiming in a non-troll way that the earth is flat. There is verifiable evidence that it isn’t, and yet he, which one would only assume has an army (no pun intended ) of people at his disposal that can actually give him the numbers as to why the earth is not flat, and if you go past Antartica you will not fall off into some void, still claims it is. He comes on national television, which incidentally is broadcasted all over the world, saying that he knows with full confidence that the earth is flat.


It’s a verifiable fact, like the atomic mass of the element Aurum, like you will find Giraffes in African Savannas but not in Argentinean Pampas, like it may freeze in the Sahara at night during some parts of the year, like the current population of the US is over 300M, like a dollar nowadays has less purchasing power than a dollar in the 1970s due to inflation, like humans can not breathe on the moon, like the moon is actually there and we have landed on it.


Why would you keep claiming that the earth is flat? Why would you proclaim this nonsense? Why would you do this if particularly you are in the position to have literally everyone around you that can go and verify whatever you want to say before you do just so you can avoid this exact nonsense issue? If you in all earnestness believe this, keep it to yourself and no harm done.


What do you think would have happened if Obama/W pulled off a stunt like that? And then, when backed into a corner, he would say “well, I read it somewhere so it must be true”?

[BananaStand]

I don’t know what to tell you man. I linked the video for your convenience, so I assume you saw it, saw the facts I presented in the now veritas Trump Tweets medium, and still say I’m somehow making up facts.

I don't have audio on this PC, so I didn't watch the video. But I'm not getting my news from a comedian anyway. Trump said he was referencing a fox report which definitely did not cite a specific incident in Sweden on the night of 2/17/17. Seems like a misunderstanding and was clarified. Fin.

That’s now how it goes. You see, there are a lot of actors that now have to deal with him who were not involved in any way, shape or form in the election.

I assume the 'actors' you're referring to are the other world leaders you listed earlier. I think you're missing the message sent by the public that elected Trump, which was: "We're sick of those 'actors' kicking America's ass on the world stage, and we want a new sheriff in town". Trump was elected, to some degree, for the purpose of pissing off those people. I understand that there are people who don't like that, but their candidate lost.

Imagine, well, let’s say Obama or W so I don’t use Trump again, claiming in a non-troll way that the earth is flat. ......Why would you do this if particularly you are in the position to have literally everyone around you that can go and verify whatever you want to say before you do just so you can avoid this exact nonsense issue?

It's simply a different style that Trump has. Again, this was adjudicated during the election. People LIKE Trump's style. It just so happens that the people who don't like his style own newspapers or have their own show on cable news.

Yes Trump could carefully craft every single word and avoid any misunderstanding ever. But he won't. You knew all along he wouldn't. If he did, he wouldn't be himself. He wouldn't be the man that the people voted for. Trump was voted in by a large number of people who are tired of the rehearsed rhetoric in washington. Didn't you hear people during the campaign referring to a "straight talker".

Trump is more raw than other presidents. Everyone knew that going in, and now has to work with that. I'm not saying they can't be critical of his policies. I'm not saying they can't be critical of things he says. I am saying they CAN'T play gotchya like this over every little detail, especially those that were known, expected, and totally consistent with his character for the last 50 years. When they do that, they cease to be a 'free and independent' press.