I know nothing about the USA/Canada border, I guess I'm wrong to think it's a useful comparison to Europe. When I was in Europe, I literally went through three international borders like it was England/Wales, with nothing more than a signpost on the road defining the border. I think they have tightened things up as a result of recent terror attacks, and the immigration crisis, but it's a matter of time before they looses up again because the free movement of people is at the core of EU policy.

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but to say that there isn't widespread contempt for the west among Muslim countries is just naive.
You're just being creative with your language here. I didn't say there wasn't widespread contempt... I said they don't support terrorism. I have contempt for the west. I don't support terrorism.

Iranians are not shy about shouting "death to america".
Of course. There's certainly some Iranians who say these things. Iran is a pretty big country though, over 77 million, the vast majority being Muslim, so unless you can demonstrate that this is how 35 million plus feel, we're probably going to be short of a majority.

Your statement here is techically correct. Indeed, we have Muslims here, some of whom have also been heard to say "Death to America", so you could also say that British people are not shy of saying these things, and still be technically correct.

You also have to disect what "death to America" means to the people saying it. Does it mean they want every American to die? Or does it mean the end of American imperialism? They are very much different things, and both could fall under the umbrella of "death to America".

There are also Iranians that like America. Have a look on youtube.

Maybe you see less of that in the UK since it's not specifically directed at you.
The radicals who want "death to America" very probably don't have the greatest opinion of the British, either. Anyone who would chop the head off someone for being American would happily take my head off for being British, so it's not like I draw comfort from the fact "death to Britian" isn't a phrase they use often.

Look how many countries exist where more than 1 in 4 people believe that suicide bombing a civilian target is often or sometimes justified.
Here's a question for you... do you believe that the killing of innocent Muslims in their home nation by means of air strikes is justifiable to protect American lives?

What percentage of Americans do you think would answer "yes"?

Why should they give more of a shit about civillian lives than we do?

Maybe in the US and UK. But in the rest of the world, plenty of these "family men" wouldn't think twice about strapping a suicide bomb on their own 10 year old son if it served their cause.
citation fucking needed

I mean fuck man, where are you pulling this shit from? Sorry to be blunt, but in my opinion, this is the viewpoint of a fucking moron. The same could be said about virtually any culture. How many parents in America want their children, pressure their children, into a military life? How is that any different to the handful of Islamic morons that also think their "cause" is more important than their children? To the American moron, a life in the military is a good, stable job to be proud of. To the Islamic moron, a life of a suicide bomber is eternal virgin fucking. Different cultures, same fucking morons.

The irony is that the moron American is much more in line with the average American than the moron Muslim is to the average Muslim, while sitting there generalising an entire religion based on the nutjobs who cut heads off.