**** Elections thread *****

[Poopadoop]

Alternative facts: Trump says "pay or fuck off", Nieto says "ok I'll fuck off".

Sounds like he "gave in and accepted Trump's terms"

It was a lose-lose for Nieto. Masterful negotiation by Trump

Let me walk you through your logic fail here.

Chamberlain accepting Hitler's demand to annex the Sudetenland was 'succumbing' to an ultimatum.

Poland refusing Hitler's demand to cede the Polish corridor was 'not succumbing' to an ultimatum.

See the difference yet? If not, then maybe the dictionary can help you out:

succumb
verb
gerund or present participle: succumbing

fail to resist pressure, temptation, or some other negative force.

You see, when you give in to the pressure, that's succumbing. But when you resist the pressure, that's the opposite of succumbing.

But in your world, Nieto was going to either succumb by agreeing to discuss paying for the wall, or succumb by not agreeing to discuss the wall. So either way Trump was going to win. That's pretty much the level we're on here I think.

[BananaStand]

But in your world, Nieto was going to either succumb by agreeing to discuss paying for the wall, or succumb by not agreeing to discuss the wall. So either way Trump was going to win. That's pretty much the level we're on here I think.

Not just in my world. The real world too. It's called check-mate yo

[Poopadoop]

Not just in my world. The real world too. It's called check-mate yo

It's only checkmate to you cause you're playing checkers. You can't defeat the logic i presented, only try to make the argument about something else.