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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Surely he knows it's not his decision.
    Why would you assume he knows that?
  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Why would you assume he knows that?
    Because even I know it.
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    ongies gonna ong
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Because even I know it.
    Not a good reason. And I bet you never actually thought about it until today for that matter. Just like Trump.
  4. #4
    What I meant by subservient is that it would be akin to saying 'here's the guy you asked for, sir'. Not a good move.

    Basically, by saying what he did, Donald just guaranteed Farage will never get the job. His chances went from < 1% to 0.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    What I meant by subservient is that it would be akin to saying 'here's the guy you asked for, sir'. Not a good move.

    Basically, by saying what he did, Donald just guaranteed Farage will never get the job. His chances went from < 1% to 0.
    It went from 0% to 0%.
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    ongies gonna ong
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    It went from 0% to 0%.
    Either way you get my point. If you start letting other countries choose your ambassadors, you might as well let them set your foreign policy for you as well.
  7. #7
    What I would love to see the May gov't do now is make a statement recommending some democrat be appointed US ambassador in London.
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Either way you get my point. If you start letting other countries choose your ambassadors, you might as well let them set your foreign policy for you as well.
    I actually gave this some thought before responding to this point, because I wasn't really sure if I agreed or not. I don't think I do.

    I mean I get your point; it can be perceived as an act of obedience. But it can also be an act of friendship, of trust, of respect. An ambassador is basically a go-between. It makes sense, if you value your relationship, to have a go-between that the other party is agreeable with. It's a potentially mutually beneficial relationship. If you send someone who the President doesn't like, that can be seen as an act of hostility, which can negatively impact on relations.

    If May wants to work positively with Trump, she could send Farage to USA, while requesting an individual that she respects gets sent to the UK. It can work both ways, and if I were determined to ensure that my act of agreement wasn't seen as obedience, then that's how I would play it. I'd make sure that USA is sending my recommendation to the UK in return.

    I don't expect Farage will get sent to USA. However, I don't feel that to do so would imply obedience, and even if it did, it wouldn't take long before it became clear that wasn't the case.
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    ongies gonna ong
  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Not a good reason. And I bet you never actually thought about it until today for that matter. Just like Trump.
    You're just talking out of your arse now. Have you stolen my weed?

    I never thought about whose responsibility it is to employ ambassadors? Of course not, I'm not a government minister. That doesn't mean I am totally clueless as to how these things are done. My favourite blogger is a former ambassador.

    Our ambassadors are employed by the government. Therefore, it is the government's responsibility to employ those they deem fit for the role. Maybe the Queen can technically have a say, I'm not sure about that. But it's obviously not a decision for foreign governments.
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    ongies gonna ong
  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    My favourite blogger is a former ambassador.
    That right there probably means you know more about how it works than Trump.

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