*** Official Putin Started Shootin' Thread ***

[Poopadoop]

Ok Colonel.

What I don't understand is how an army of 25K can march on Moscow without being wiped out by the air force.

Ukraine's lost about 150k men since the war began. That's over about 500 days, facing the entire RUS army and RUS air force. Works out to about 375 men a day.

So how can RUS destroy a convoy of (I guess it's 25k now, ok whatever) men in 3 days, or about 8000 men a day, using their air force alone, or to be more precise, the parts of it that aren't already busy fighting UA?

The column traveled halfway from Rostov to Moscow and the Russian AF did fuck all. That says about all you need to know about what they're capable of right now. Could they have dragged a few more planes away from the front and attacked the convoy with it as it drove from Voronezh to Moscow? Sure. Could they have made an appreciable dent in it? Unlikely. Very unlikely.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Ukraine's lost about 150k men since the war began. That's over about 500 days, facing the entire RUS army and RUS air force. Works out to about 375 men a day.

I never see stats about Ukrainian losses, only about Russian losses.
According to an infographic from this morning, Russian troop losses are over 225k.

Not that I'd trust any numbers during the conflict, but if Ukraine is killing 3:2, that might still not be enough to sustain against Russia.

The counter-offensive will presumably bring that ratio closer to unity. Military wisdom says the defender has the advantage when they've had months to prepare and fortify their positions.

[Poopadoop]

Not that I'd trust any numbers during the conflict, but if Ukraine is killing 3:2, that might still not be enough to sustain against Russia.

This is the worrying thing to me. Russia's history of how they war is that they field an army of moderate competence, are very wasteful of lives, but wear down their enemy with their nearly bottomless manpower.

In WWII for example, the German army was extremely competent (at least at a tactical level, they did have an amateur making up their strategy) and caused between 2-3x as many Russian casaulties as they suffered. But they couldn't sustain those losses whereas the Russians could. See you in Berlin.

[OngBonga]

I'd presume that Wagner doesn't have robust air defenses to stop a sortie of attack planes.

You'd have to be moving some serious military hardware, and a lot of it, to threaten Russia's air force on Russian territory. I just can't see it.

Putin basically bottled it. Probably with good reason.