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    Quote Originally Posted by CoccoBill View Post
    . Not ever having had to deal with those things, and not being able to understand how much even those small things can do damage to a person over time, is privilege.
    This is exactly what's wrong with the world right now. This is the neo-marxist fallacy

    Everyone has problems. Everyone. Saying gay people's problems, or black people's problems, or women's problems are somehow more or less important than other people's problems.....is a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Banana View Post
    This is exactly what's wrong with the world right now. This is the neo-marxist fallacy

    Everyone has problems. Everyone. Saying gay people's problems, or black people's problems, or women's problems are somehow more or less important than other people's problems.....is a problem.
    Could you point to the exact spot where someone said that?
    Our brains have just one scale, and we resize our experiences to fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoccoBill View Post
    Could you point to the exact spot where someone said that?
    You're just dodging now. Not having a real discussion. Explicit or implied, the overriding theme of your last few posts is that gay people have special problems the rest of us "privileged" people don't have to deal with. And because of that, they deserve special treatment.

    Fuck that philosophy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Banana View Post
    You're just dodging now. Not having a real discussion. Explicit or implied, the overriding theme of your last few posts is that gay people have special problems the rest of us "privileged" people don't have to deal with. And because of that, they deserve special treatment.

    Fuck that philosophy.
    No one's said anything about their problems being "special". I just tried to explain why they are problems, since you keep belittling them, and clearly don't understand them. No one's asking for special treatment for them, but literally the exact same treatment as for everyone else.

    Fuck your philosophy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoccoBill View Post
    No one's said anything about their problems being "special". I just tried to explain why they are problems, since you keep belittling them, and clearly don't understand them. No one's asking for special treatment for them, but literally the exact same treatment as for everyone else.

    Fuck your philosophy.
    now you're backpedaling. Everything you deny saying is exactly what you meant when you said the word "privileged". Right there you're ranking/prioritizing people's problems by which marginalized group they belong to.

    Just say what you believe man. If it's neo-marxism, so be it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Banana View Post
    now you're backpedaling. Everything you deny saying is exactly what you meant when you said the word "privileged". Right there you're ranking/prioritizing people's problems by which marginalized group they belong to.

    Just say what you believe man. If it's neo-marxism, so be it.
    I think I know better what I meant, which was exactly what I said. It is a privilege to lead a life where you're not discriminated against for anything you are. It's not my problem if the word privilege triggers you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoccoBill View Post
    No one's asking for special treatment for them, but literally the exact same treatment as for everyone else.
    If this was true, you wouldn't be mad at the Christian baker, because he is actually giving gays the same treatment he gives everyone else.

    He won't make Halloween cakes because Pagan holidays are not part of his religious beliefs.

    No one complained about that. Where's the march for Pagan rights? Somehow it's only the politically useful coalitions that get to be "non-privileged" and they DO get "special treatment"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Banana View Post
    If this was true, you wouldn't be mad at the Christian baker, because he is actually giving gays the same treatment he gives everyone else.

    He won't make Halloween cakes because Pagan holidays are not part of his religious beliefs.
    So because on top of discriminating against gays he's also discriminating against pagans, that makes him not discriminatory at all? Want to spend a minute more thinking about that?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Banana View Post
    No one complained about that. Where's the march for Pagan rights? Somehow it's only the politically useful coalitions that get to be "non-privileged" and they DO get "special treatment"
    Pagan rights should be the same as christian rights, aka none. If you feel the issue is close to your heart, go ahead and do something about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoccoBill View Post
    Pagan rights should be the same as christian rights, aka none.
    If tthis is your position you should just stop posting. Because it's as wrong as wrong can be.

    The first amendment guarantees those rights. they're inalienable. No law can be passed that infringes on that right.

    So if you're argument is that the proper amount of rights for Christians is "none" then you're not even thinking intelligently about the subject.

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