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    Quote Originally Posted by CoccoBill View Post
    Trumpism gave them a chance to become relevant again, abandoning what you've stood for to maintain power. Being willing to ignore the bigotry and craziness for SCOTUS seats and tax cuts.
    You just described every politician every, and just about every member of the ruling class in America.

    I can open any media source right now and find a dozen examples of someone on the left saying something completely contrary to what they said 5 years ago. I think you know that hypocrisy abounds. Singling out Trump-supporting republicans is a really lame spin-job. Not even CNN would insult people's intelligence that brazenly.

    And you make it sound like the republican party was this unified ideological force before Trump came alone. It wasn't. Things used to be that Dems represented the working poor and middle class and that repubs were all about deregulation, low taxes, and business growth. That's INVERTED in the last 10-20 years. Trump certainly sped that along, but he wasn't anywhere near the initial development of that trend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Banana View Post
    You just described every politician every, and just about every member of the ruling class in America.

    I can open any media source right now and find a dozen examples of someone on the left saying something completely contrary to what they said 5 years ago. I think you know that hypocrisy abounds. Singling out Trump-supporting republicans is a really lame spin-job. Not even CNN would insult people's intelligence that brazenly.

    And you make it sound like the republican party was this unified ideological force before Trump came alone. It wasn't. Things used to be that Dems represented the working poor and middle class and that repubs were all about deregulation, low taxes, and business growth. That's INVERTED in the last 10-20 years. Trump certainly sped that along, but he wasn't anywhere near the initial development of that trend.
    I'm not saying you're totally wrong, but you might be conflating changing your mind about an issue based on new information with just completely abandoning your core values. I'm sure both happens, within all parties, but the republican support for Trump for the past years reeks quite heavily. See Lindsey Graham's comments about Trump pre election 2016. They hated him but started embracing him because he won.
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