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    Fair enough. I agree homosexuals should not be discriminated against, and personally I would put the rights of homosexuals ahead of the rights of people who believe in the tooth fairy. But I hold religion in contempt.

    But the point remains that anyone who insists homosexuals must be allowed to marry in churches must remain morally consistent and insist they are also allowed to marry in mosques, or any other religious building that usually hosts weddings. That moral consistency doesn't exist though. People are afraid to criticise Muslims for fear of being branded "racist", despite Islam not being a race.

    I criticise Islam more than Christianity, largely because of homosexuality. Christians are far from perfect on this matter, but overall they're more progressive than Muslims.
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    All I'm saying is that they clearly are not into monogamy. And there aren't really that many of them adopting kids. there is no such thing as a tax benefit for getting married. That's a myth. Married people are treated differently under the tax code, but that's because the tax code was written when women didn't work. There are tax mechanisms that fairly treat a couple with disparate levels of income. It actually works the opposite when both spouses make close to the same money. Married gays pay more taxes than unmarried gays. The "marriage penalty" is actually a problem for straight people too.

    The only other thing marriage gets you is that you're first in line for probate, and you get to be the one deciding to unplug your partner from life support. Both of those things can be solved on legalzoom.com for $89.99

    So I'm just not understanding WHY gay people want to get married. But if it helps them feel more accepted, and helps them assimilate socially with ease...then fine. Get married. But why aggravate the church people? Just go to the next cake shop, jeezus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Banana View Post
    All I'm saying is that they clearly are not into monogamy. And there aren't really that many of them adopting kids. there is no such thing as a tax benefit for getting married. That's a myth. Married people are treated differently under the tax code, but that's because the tax code was written when women didn't work. There are tax mechanisms that fairly treat a couple with disparate levels of income. It actually works the opposite when both spouses make close to the same money. Married gays pay more taxes than unmarried gays. The "marriage penalty" is actually a problem for straight people too.

    The only other thing marriage gets you is that you're first in line for probate, and you get to be the one deciding to unplug your partner from life support. Both of those things can be solved on legalzoom.com for $89.99

    So I'm just not understanding WHY gay people want to get married. But if it helps them feel more accepted, and helps them assimilate socially with ease...then fine. Get married. But why aggravate the church people? Just go to the next cake shop, jeezus
    Let me try if I'm able to explain how I see this. Imagine you're at the supermarket and decide to pick up some apples. The cashier asks you whether you're left- or right-handed. You look puzzled, and say you're left-handed. The cashier says "Um right, we only sell these to right-handed folks." You feel confused and think that's completely idiotic, why should your handedness matter? If that happens once, you probably just laugh it off and think what an idiot, and move on with your life. Water off a duck's back. But now imagine the same happens every time, at every grocery store, all your life. And not just with apples at supermarkets, but with several things, all the time, everywhere. People sneer at you when they hear you're left-handed, some might even throw some slurs. You've done nothing wrong, and there's nothing you can do about it (except lie and hide the fact). Eventually, one might understandably get pissed off or worse, depressed. And we're still nowhere near what they have been going through for years, from bashing to ridicule to violence.

    Having those rights shouldn't need justification or reason, having those rights should be the default. Not ever having had to deal with those things, and not being able to understand how much even those small things can do damage to a person over time, is privilege. Wanting to get rid of all of them, even the small things, is to me completely understandable.
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    . Not ever having had to deal with those things, and not being able to understand how much even those small things can do damage to a person over time, is privilege.
    This is exactly what's wrong with the world right now. This is the neo-marxist fallacy

    Everyone has problems. Everyone. Saying gay people's problems, or black people's problems, or women's problems are somehow more or less important than other people's problems.....is a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Banana View Post
    This is exactly what's wrong with the world right now. This is the neo-marxist fallacy

    Everyone has problems. Everyone. Saying gay people's problems, or black people's problems, or women's problems are somehow more or less important than other people's problems.....is a problem.
    Could you point to the exact spot where someone said that?
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    Could you point to the exact spot where someone said that?
    You're just dodging now. Not having a real discussion. Explicit or implied, the overriding theme of your last few posts is that gay people have special problems the rest of us "privileged" people don't have to deal with. And because of that, they deserve special treatment.

    Fuck that philosophy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Banana View Post
    You're just dodging now. Not having a real discussion. Explicit or implied, the overriding theme of your last few posts is that gay people have special problems the rest of us "privileged" people don't have to deal with. And because of that, they deserve special treatment.

    Fuck that philosophy.
    No one's said anything about their problems being "special". I just tried to explain why they are problems, since you keep belittling them, and clearly don't understand them. No one's asking for special treatment for them, but literally the exact same treatment as for everyone else.

    Fuck your philosophy.
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