**** Elections thread *****

[Poopadoop]

What do you think a "deal" is in the context of the EU?

It's a new relationship.

This is vague, inasmuch as it could cover all sorts of things and mean all sorts of changes, or few, or barely any.

[OngBonga]

This is vague, inasmuch as it could cover all sorts of things and mean all sorts of changes, or few, or barely any.

If the option was "leave with a deal", that is vague.

If you want it to not be vague, then we have the following...

1) leave
2) remain

Funnily enough, that's pretty close to what was actually asked.

[Poopadoop]

If the option was "leave with a deal", that is vague.

If you want it to not be vague, then we have the following...

1) leave
2) remain

Funnily enough, that's pretty close to what was actually asked.

So your assumption is that Leave with No Deal was what people understood by "Leave."

Pretty sure that's not universally true, or even mostly true.

[OngBonga]

So your assumption is that Leave with No Deal was what people understood by "Leave."

Pretty sure that's not universally true, or even mostly true.

This idea of a "deal" didn't emerge until after the referendum.

As a refresher, here's the question...

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

At the time, that seemed clear enough to me. If that's not clear to someone else, that's their problem.

Pretty sure that's not universally true, or even mostly true.

I think this is something remainers just need to believe.

If you think losing trade makes a country better off economically, then yes you are.

Fun fact - the world outside the EU is bigger than the EU. We're "losing trade" by being a member state and not being able to deal with everyone else.

Well if you respond to it that way, then it suggests to me you don't understand the argument I'm making. Sorry, not sure how to make it any clearer for you.

No, I get it. Your argument is you can't be bothered to fix your own boiler, so fuck democracy.

[CoccoBill]

Fun fact - the world outside the EU is bigger than the EU. We're "losing trade" by being a member state and not being able to deal with everyone else.

The EU doesn't prohibit trade with non-EU countries. Looks like currently 55% of UK's exports go to non-EU countries.

[OngBonga]

The EU doesn't prohibit trade with non-EU countries. Looks like currently 55% of UK's exports go to non-EU countries.

I was expecting poop to nitpick this post, not you.

Any trade deal we have with a third party is an EU trade deal, not a UK trade deal.

[CoccoBill]

I'd much rather have an AI government than direct democracy. Half of the people are dumber than average.

[OngBonga]

I'd much rather have an AI government than direct democracy. Half of the people are dumber than average.

Yeah, sounds great, let's trust "AI". Who's in control of that then?

[CoccoBill]

Yeah, sounds great, let's trust "AI". Who's in control of that then?

Hopefully not a bunch of loons like with direct democracy.

And no, I wouldn't trust it either, especially with our current understanding of the issues and their controls. Still preferable to a direct democracy though, IMO.