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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Amesbury is not Salisbury.
    No, it's right next to Stonehenge, which is near Salisbury.
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  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    No, it's right next to Stonehenge, which is near Salisbury.
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    How does the weather near Stonehenge stop them from walking 15 minutes to Salisbury Cathedral on the 3rd?
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
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    How does the weather near Stonehenge stop them from walking 15 minutes to Salisbury Cathedral on the 3rd?
    I would have thought the image of huge snow drifts barely outside of Salisbury would demonstrate that weather conditions were indeed challenging.

    Your case seems to revolve around the idea it's fishy they didn't walk for a mile or two when soaked in sleet. You seem to think that link you provided shows it wasn't sleeting. Well those guys were wet, that isn't in dispute. So the weather was doing something.
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  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I would have thought the image of huge snow drifts barely outside of Salisbury would demonstrate that weather conditions were indeed challenging.
    https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Am...d51.068785!3e0

    It's not a country road 10 miles north of Salisbury that we're talking about. It's Salisbury city centre. Show some photos of how horrid it was there on March 3rd to compare to the dryish conditions that miraculously appeared on the 4th and you'll have a better case.



    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Your case seems to revolve around the idea it's fishy they didn't walk for a mile or two when soaked in sleet. You seem to think that link you provided shows it wasn't sleeting. Well those guys were wet, that isn't in dispute. So the weather was doing something.
    What's the theory here, the weather on that website was faked? It shows no rain, sleet, or snow on the 3rd.

    Show me pictures of these guys in Salisbury fighthing their way through snow and sleet and soaked up to their knees as they claimed if that's your story.
    Last edited by Poopadoop; 09-17-2018 at 05:28 AM.
  5. #5
    Also, Salisbury Cathedral is SE of the station. Why are the two Russians seen wandering around an area that's a 20 minute walk NW of the station on the 4th, near Skripal's house?
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Also, Salisbury Cathedral is SE of the station. Why are the two Russians seen wandering around an area that's a 20 minute walk NW of the station on the 4th, near Skripal's house?
    Fuck knows. Do you suppose that two foreign tourists getting lost is suspicious?
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  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Fuck knows. Do you suppose that two foreign tourists getting lost is suspicious?
    I've never been to Salisbury, let alone the station. But I have been to many, many train stations in the UK, and it's very easy to step out onto the road and simply walk the wrong way, especially if you're not in any hurry to go anywhere in particular. Maybe they just went whatever way they felt like?
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  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Fuck knows. Do you suppose that two foreign tourists getting lost is suspicious?
    if someone happens to be poisoned near where they got lost, yes.

    if the rest of their story is also fishy, yes.

    Seems easier to believe than the idea they went all the way from Moscow to see S.C. and didn't have a plan for how to get there, but instead just wandered around the city hoping they would find it.
  9. #9
    If they come out of the station onto Chruchfields Road, and turn right instead of left, they'll do a loop and will be on the A-road heading back into Salisbury. That's one way they could end up on the wrong side.

    Easy.
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  10. #10
    It's not a country road 10 miles north of Salisbury that we're talking about. It's Salisbury city centre. Show some photos of how horrid it was there on March 3rd to compare to the dryish conditions that miraculously appeared on the 4th and you'll have a better case.
    Salisbury city centre would have been gritted. Dryish conditions miraculaously appearing after horrid conditions? How long have you been in the UK? I remember the weather around this time, albeit in my neck of the woods, and it was indeed fucking horrific. Well, I was loving it, but it was definitely extreme weather for us.

    What's the theory here, the weather on that website was faked. It shows no rain, sleet, or snow on the 3rd.
    I'm saying that a random weather report is not gospel. This is the UK, rain appears and disappears without warning all the time. If it's cold enough, it will be sleet. This isn't remotely compelling. Faked? Probably not, it was probably just hit-and-miss weather and this report is amateur. Find me something from the Met Office, and maybe I'll listen.

    Show me pictures of these guys in Salisbury fighthing their way through snow and sleet and soaked up to their knees as they claimed if that's your story.
    I'll see what I can find.
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  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Salisbury city centre would have been gritted. Dryish conditions miraculaously appearing after horrid conditions? How long have you been in the UK? I remember the weather around this time, albeit in my neck of the woods, and it was indeed fucking horrific. Well, I was loving it, but it was definitely extreme weather for us.
    cctv footage of them on the 4th was also faked then obv., as they were walking around a dryish city on the 4th. Certainly wasn't huge drifts of snow everywhere.
  12. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    cctv footage of them on the 4th was also faked then obv., as they were walking around a dryish city on the 4th. Certainly wasn't huge drifts of snow everywhere.
    Of course there wasn't in the city centre. We grit the fucking roads. It is very wet though, you can see that.
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  13. #13
    if someone happens to be poisoned near where they got lost, yes.
    Well I hope evryone else in Salisbury is also a suspect then.

    if the rest of their story is also fishy, yes.
    It is if you read the Guardian.

    Seems easier to believe than the idea they went all the way from Moscow to see S.C. and didn't have a plan for how to get there, but instead just wandered around the city hoping they would find it.
    I really don't find this easier to believe than two Russian tourists having a walk around a historical city.
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  14. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Well I hope evryone else in Salisbury is also a suspect then.
    Just because the police aren't retarded enough to think some little old lady that lives down the street from Skripal used a nerve agent to poison him doesn't mean they didn't consider other suspects. If you're them do you not find it a strange coincidence that two Russians came to the city the day before and then again the day of the poisoning, ended up near the victim's house, and have a fishy alibi?


    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    It is if you read the Guardian.
    At least I have a source other than a photo from twitter of a place 10 miles N of Salisbury.



    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I really don't find this easier to believe than two Russian tourists having a walk around a historical city.
    There's only one thing to see in Salisbury and they walked in the opposite direction of it.
  15. #15
    You find it hard to believe they walked through two different corridors at the same time when they were travelling together?
    EXACTLY the same time... and I see no reason to believe it's a different corridor. There should be some kind of identification for this reason, but that is missing.
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  16. #16
    There are slight differences, and the angle of the camera seems slightly different, so perhaps they are different corridors. Still, outstanding choreography. Why didn't they both go down the same corridor?
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  17. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    There are slight differences, and the angle of the camera seems slightly different, so perhaps they are different corridors. Still, outstanding choreography. Why didn't they both go down the same corridor?
    Because in airport security you go through the corridor they tell you to go through.

    Edit: to be fair, though, i don't really understand where those photos were taken. It kinda looks like the corridor you go down to get on/off the plane, but there's no other people around. Also, like you say camera angles are different so it's prolly two different corridors. Haven't been to Gatwick for a long time though so can't say for sure it's not some other part of the airport, like security or w/e.
    Last edited by Poopadoop; 09-17-2018 at 05:56 AM.
  18. #18
    OOh I found this while digging...



    Check out those time stamps.
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  19. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    OOh I found this while digging...



    Check out those time stamps.
    You find it hard to believe they walked through two different corridors at the same time when they were travelling together?
  20. #20
    Any photos of the city on the 4th will not prove it wasn't sleeting, since the ground is wet as fuck.
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  21. #21
    And drifts on the outskirts show it is reasonable they they went back thinking there was a thaw, and realised they still couldn't get to Stonehenge because the thaw hadn't extended to the countryside around Salisbury.
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  22. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    And drifts on the outskirts show it is reasonable they they went back thinking there was a thaw, and realised they still couldn't get to Stonehenge because the thaw hadn't extended to the countryside around Salisbury.
    It's kinda irrelevant, since what's mostly suspicious are the things I keep mentioning: the aborted visit to Salisbury on the 3rd in 'sleet' up to their knees, and the 'wrong turn' on the 4th that just happened to take them close to Skripal's.

    I could also mention there's no record of them visiting S.C., but obv. you'll just come back and say the records were purged by the gov't.
  23. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    It's kinda irrelevant, since what's mostly suspicious are the things I keep mentioning: the aborted visit to Salisbury on the 3rd in 'sleet' up to their knees, and the 'wrong turn' on the 4th that just happened to take them close to Skripal's.

    I could also mention there's no record of them visiting S.C., but obv. you'll just come back and say the records were purged by the gov't.
    This isn't even enough to convince the CPS that there's a reasonable chance of successful prosecution, let alone the media presenting circumstantional evidence as though it is compelling. The media coverage has guaranteed they cannot get a fair trial.
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  24. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    This isn't even enough to convince the CPS that there's a reasonable chance of successful prosecution, let alone the media presenting circumstantional evidence as though it is compelling. The media coverage has guaranteed they cannot get a fair trial.
    No there's no smoking gun, and they wouldn't be convicted based on what we've been told. Doesn't mean they shouldn't get the chance to go and anwer some questions. Doubt Putin will be sending them back for that, though.

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