*** Official Politics Shitposting Thread ***

[BananaStand]

if you're walking back your blanket statements about all Muslims and all of Islam, then I'll retract my prior disagreements.

I don't need to walk anything back. Thank you for your retraction.

That's a problem. It kinda debunks the idea that there are 'moderate' muslims outside of the west.

There are three kinds of muslims
A) the kind that bomb civilians
B) The kind that don't bomb civilians but think it's fine if someone else does
C) The kind that don't bomb civilians because they think it's wrong every single time.

Group B is by far the largest. Groups A and B combined represent a STAGGERING majority of muslims worldwide. Group C, outside of the US and Britain, are squarely in the minority.

[MadMojoMonkey]

I don't need to walk anything back. Thank you for your retraction.

You're welcome.

Now let's talk about how you constantly use inflammatory language which mischaracterizes your thoughts. Then you blame other people for being stupid when they respond to something you wrote.

Is this intentional?
Or are those IQ's you're so proud of not really helping you in this area?

[BananaStand]

Now let's talk about how you constantly use inflammatory language which mischaracterizes your thoughts. Then you blame other people for being stupid when they respond to something you wrote

I'm blaming whoever is at fault. Congratulations on being the only one here who rises above confirmation bias and accepts responsibility for his bad listening.

I really don't know why anything I've said is unclear, but anyone is welcome to ASK for clarification, any time they like. That doesn't seem to happen though. Everyone seems to want to find hidden meanings, or subtle contradictions, or whatever pathetic debate tactic they think will help them put me down. It's pathetic.

And then when I brush that off, I'm accused of 'doing the finger in the ear thing' and being stubborn, and being closed-minded and all that.

I WOULD LOVE FOR SOMEONE HERE TO CHANGE MY MIND ON SOMETHING

The problem with that is, contrary to your preferred beliefs, I don't consume partisan news sources from only one side, swallow it whole, and let it shape my entire set of feelings on any given issue. It's really fucking hard to change my mind, because my mind doesn't get made up easily. So if I've already covered all the bases, and arrived at my position, you're gonna have to bring a lot more than demagoguery and whining if you want to have a successful debate.

If you disagree with me, it's probably because you're missing a fact. All you have to do is ask me what it is, and I'll tell you. Or, if you believe I'm missing a fact, feel free to present it. But don't get pissy and whiny, and sore-loser if the fact you present is dumb.

For example

I'm saying Islam sucks because of the massive frequency of adherents that espouse terrible ideas. Some of those terrible ideas include the oppression of women, caliphate as an endgame, sharia law, and the various murderous doctrines targeting adulterers, homosexuals, apostates, and infidels.

Jack tried to tell me that I was missing a fact.....that Jimmy Carter was mean to Iran.

I say that's irrelevant to anything I've presented, and doesn't change the facts as I've outlined them above.

I'm still open to having my mind changed. I'm still willing to debate this.

But in order to move forward, I need someone to explain to me how overthrowing Saddam Hussein is the reason that 99% of Pakistan wants to live under Sharia law.

[Poopadoop]

If you disagree with me, it's probably because you're missing a fact. All you have to do is ask me what it is, and I'll tell you.

How magnaminous of you.

[MadMojoMonkey]

I'm blaming whoever is at fault.

If only.

Congratulations on being the only one here who rises above confirmation bias and accepts responsibility for his bad listening.

Nope. If you are choosing words which do not convey your intended meaning, that's on you.
It is not your listener's fault when you misrepresent yourself.

E.g. when you say "Islam is a faulty ideology" and you don't indicate that you are not talking about all of Islam, but only certain sects, then that's your miscommunication, not your listener's.