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[OngBonga]

Both. Which one are armed teachers treating?

The disease.

[CoccoBill]

The disease.

Hint: Shootings are the symptom.

[wufwugy]

Hint: Shootings are the symptom.

When put into those terms. I'm not sure those are the most productive terms.

[CoccoBill]

When put into those terms. I'm not sure those are the most productive terms.

What would be more productive? If shootings are the disease, what are the symptoms?

[wufwugy]

What would be more productive? If shootings are the disease, what are the symptoms?

I don't think either is 'the disease" or "the symptoms". Those are in the eye of the beholder. The variables are complex and exist within a dynamic framework.

If mental health is the disease and shootings are the symptoms, then wouldn't solving mental health stop shootings? Well, not really, at least not in achievable terms. The knowledge to solve the mental health problem is not comprehensive, and even where progress is made, some people will always fall through the cracks (this is unavoidable).

This reality may be one reason why self-defense and deterrence are such mainstays for humankind since the dawn of time. I may not know how to fix every problem, but I sure can stop somebody from making their ill ways harmful to me by protecting myself.

[CoccoBill]

I don't think either is 'the disease" or "the symptoms". Those are in the eye of the beholder. The variables are complex and exist within a dynamic framework.

Sure, but I think that's an apt depiction.

If mental health is the disease and shootings are the symptoms, then wouldn't solving mental health stop shootings? Well, not really, at least not in achievable terms. The knowledge to solve the mental health problem is not comprehensive, and even where progress is made, some people will always fall through the cracks (this is unavoidable).

I'd say solving mental health issues would stop most shootings. Whether mental health issues are fully solvable, at least for the time being, is of course a completely different issue. It's definitely not a silver bullet, that's why I'd endorse it as part of the solution, not as the solution.

This reality may be one reason why self-defense and deterrence are such mainstays for humankind since the dawn of time. I may not know how to fix every problem, but I sure can stop somebody from making their ill ways harmful to me by protecting myself.

As another part of the solution, as a last resort, absolutely. Though not in a way that can potentially do more harm than good. Until proven otherwise, I would put teachers with guns in that category. Armed professionals is another thing, but that brings a whole slew of other issues that at least I wouldn't want for my kids. If things escalate any more I'm sure your administration is gonna start considering preemptive drone strikes against possible targets.

[wufwugy]

teachers with guns

Only those with the highest qualifications.