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[OngBonga]

I got bored of waiting for your list, so here's Al-jazeera's...
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/...124754885.html

Fewer minorities in work

This is very unlikely to be discrimination. People have better job prospects if they are educated. People are more likely to be better educated if they have a stable family life. Immigrants are less likely to be educated to the same degree as natives. So it's perfectly logical that minorities find it harder to get a job, when we look at general statistics. An educated black person in the UK will have better job prospects than I have.

Stop & Search

Police are far more likely to stop and search non-white Britons.

I'm also far more likely to be mugged by a non-white in Britain. Further, non-whites are more likely to be poor, for the reason stated above... less job prospects. Thus, non-whites are more likely to turn to crime. Non-white youths are more likely to be hanging around in gangs, or loitering and acting suspiciously, so this is again perfectly logical.

Roma pupils suffer

Gypsies are more likely to be excluded from school. I wonder if that has anything to do with their upbringing? They are much more likely to start fights, and since their parents are more likely to be poorly educated, then they kids are more likely to be poorly educated.

White people are more likely to own their own home

This is a combination of the first point, coupled with ancestral legacy... inheritance.

Black people more likely to become drug addicts.

Al-jazeera used the term "drug abuse victims", but I prefer the term "addict", since it emphasises personal responsibility on the matter. Noone is forcing anyone to take illegal drugs. And again this comes to the first point... I am also more likely to be a drug addict than, say, a white man the same age as me who is better educated than I am. In fact, replace white man with black man and my point still stands.

The last point they make is about minorities feeling "British", not really a matter of discrimination, more refuting the argument that they don't integrate. I recognise that many immigrants do successfuly integrate, I'm not disputing this point. Those who don't... it isn't because of racism, it's because they lack the skills or motivation required.

[Poopadoop]

I got bored of waiting for your list, so here's Al-jazeera's...
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/...124754885.html


This is very unlikely to be discrimination. People have better job prospects if they are educated. People are more likely to be better educated if they have a stable family life. Immigrants are less likely to be educated to the same degree as natives. So it's perfectly logical that minorities find it harder to get a job, when we look at general statistics. An educated black person in the UK will have better job prospects than I have.



I'm also far more likely to be mugged by a non-white in Britain. Further, non-whites are more likely to be poor, for the reason stated above... less job prospects. Thus, non-whites are more likely to turn to crime. Non-white youths are more likely to be hanging around in gangs, or loitering and acting suspiciously, so this is again perfectly logical.


Gypsies are more likely to be excluded from school. I wonder if that has anything to do with their upbringing? They are much more likely to start fights, and since their parents are more likely to be poorly educated, then they kids are more likely to be poorly educated.


This is a combination of the first point, coupled with ancestral legacy... inheritance.


Al-jazeera used the term "drug abuse victims", but I prefer the term "addict", since it emphasises personal responsibility on the matter. Noone is forcing anyone to take illegal drugs. And again this comes to the first point... I am also more likely to be a drug addict than, say, a white man the same age as me who is better educated than I am. In fact, replace white man with black man and my point still stands.

The last point they make is about minorities feeling "British", not really a matter of discrimination, more refuting the argument that they don't integrate. I recognise that many immigrants do successfuly integrate, I'm not disputing this point. Those who don't... it isn't because of racism, it's because they lack the skills or motivation required.

So basically you're saying there's an advantage to being born white in the UK?

[Poopadoop]

Here's an example:

Where I grew up, I was occasionally stopped by police and questioned for being over the legal limit of Native American blood. I was perfectly innocent on every occasion, either driving down a road or walking down a street, in broad daylight. And there was no other reason to stop me other than me being a suspicious colour. This did not happen to my white friends. Would you say they had an advantage over me in the sense of being allowed to go about their business unmolested?

[BananaStand]

Where I grew up, I was occasionally stopped by police and questioned for being over the legal limit of Native American blood. I was perfectly innocent on every occasion, either driving down a road or walking down a street, in broad daylight. And there was no other reason to stop me other than me being a suspicious colour. This did not happen to my white friends. Would you say they had an advantage over me in the sense of being allowed to go about their business unmolested?

In what way did this diminish your rights? What negative outcome did you experience?

[Poopadoop]

In what way did this diminish your rights? What negative outcome did you experience?

I was subjected to unwarranted and illegal police intimidation. What do you want, my skull getting cracked?

[OngBonga]

I was subjected to unwarranted and illegal police intimidation. What do you want, my skull getting cracked?

I've been subjected to unwarranted police questioning. I didn't consider it illegal intimidation.

I don't like to use this word, but don't be a fucking snowflake.

[BananaStand]

I was subjected to unwarranted and illegal police intimidation. What do you want, my skull getting cracked?

I'm trying to get as to why this would be something that prevents success. Let me ask the question differently.

So how is someone not subjected to the same treatment, privileged? What advantage does that afford them. What were they allowed to gain that you weren't because of this treatment

[OngBonga]

Are Pakistani people privileged in Pakistan?

[OngBonga]

So basically you're saying there's an advantage to being born white in the UK?

What a piss poor response.

An educated black person in the UK will have better job prospects than I have.

Tell me how I'm advantaged by being born white in the UK.

I'm arguing the advantage comes from stable family background, which, on average, will result in better performance at school, which in turn results in better job prospects. It has fuck all to do with skin colour. It's just that a large % of those from stable families, with strong educations, happen to be white, since white people are native and have been for millenia.

Here's an example:

Small sample size, perhaps it was a racist cop, or perhaps you look shifty. I have no idea.

I've been questioned by the police before for no apparent reason. I'm white as white gets. Maybe the cops who questioned me just didn't like the look of me. It's hardly something I'm gonna lose sleep over.

Do better.

[Poopadoop]

What a piss poor response.

All you did was list a number ways whites are advantaged, and then provide an explanation for each one. The question was does the advantage exist, not why it exists.

Tell me how I'm advantaged by being born white in the UK.

You just showed several ways in which you are.

I'm arguing the advantage comes from stable family background, which, on average, will result in better performance at school, which in turn results in better job prospects. It has fuck all to do with skin colour. It's just that a large % of those from stable families, with strong educations, happen to be white, since white people are native and have been for millenia.

You can argue lots of things. It doesn't change the basic fact.

Small sample size, perhaps it was a racist cop,

No shit. Try racist copsssss. It happened on average once every six months from the time I became a teenager until I got out of that fukcing town.

I have no idea.

You're right about that. But yet you want to argue it was due to anything but skin colour.

I've been questioned by the police before for no apparent reason. I'm white as white gets. Maybe the cops who questioned me just didn't like the look of me. It's hardly something I'm gonna lose sleep over.

I'm not talking about you, maybe you do look shifty I don't know. I didn't look any more or less suspicious than my friends, it's just a strange coincidence it happened to me and not them, and it happened repeatedly.

Do better.

You're trying to argue racial profiling and racist police don't exist. You're the one who needs to do better.