Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
Great, maths is discovered.

Just like a wheel was always a wheel before someone created it.
No. Someone had to conceive the wheel, someone had to manipulate physical objects in order to create the object they conceive.

That is not what is happening with maths, nor with language. With language, we see something, then we create a word for it. We don't manipulate rock to create mountains so we can give it a name... mountains were discovered, not invented.

The wheel was invented becuase it wasn't "found" lying around, and then someone said "I'll call this the wheel".