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    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    No it means it wasn't defined. I have no problem with stuff being defined in multiple ways either as long as it is consistent. Not accurately conveying something means it isn't a definition. You can misdefine things but this is exactly that a mistake.

    Based on your definitions I see no reason to believe your sofa isn't a fork.
    We're at an understanding roadblock, but I think we're on the same page. I'll go to bed with this:

    Unlike math, most people DONT agree on the definitions of words. Love means something different to me than to you. Part of this disagreement is because the definitions suck, or we rely on different definitions to begin with. Another part is that people, as a whole, suck at describing things (because of laziness, poor vocabulary, or what have you). But this doesn't mean words aren't like math, it means we have an unrefined and shitty language.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JKDS View Post
    We're at an understanding roadblock, but I think we're on the same page. I'll go to bed with this:

    Unlike math, most people DONT agree on the definitions of words. Love means something different to me than to you. Part of this disagreement is because the definitions suck, or we rely on different definitions to begin with. Another part is that people, as a whole, suck at describing things (because of laziness, poor vocabulary, or what have you). But this doesn't mean words aren't like math, it means we have an unrefined and shitty language.
    You're saying language could become a thing like maths where everything is defined etc. Yeah maybe it could. I personally don't think that's better than what we have now, or maybe I would and I just can't see it reaching that point which is fair. On a level language tries to convey shit that is much more complicated than maths but that's a different point I suppose.

    Language is also ever evolving in a way I don't think maths possibly could. I think this is a great thing about language how words can evolve over time to the point where words can mean what they mean and the exact opposite at the same time.

    It's important to realise that it isn't just people don't agree on a definition of a word like love but there is no actual definition. Dictionaries are a great attempt at this but fall so short compared to mathematical definitions it's just bollocks.

    I also want to point out that language is fucking great at what it does. I think humans deserve a great pat on the back at the complexities of language and hwo well they understand them based on context.

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