This is my last post on this topic. I'll give you the last word if you'd like.

Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
I think there's no getting away from being a pawn. If you stay at home, you're a pawn. Go to work and pay tax, you're a pawn. The only way to not be a pawn is to be a bigger piece. Or don't play chess. I try not to play, but that's near impossible.
Let's put a stop to that by limiting government intrusion into personal lives.

Yes, but "ambitious" doesn't mean "get a job", it might mean "rob someone", because they might not be able to get a job.
Welfare reduces the supply of jobs. Regulations and bad monetary policy reduces the supply of jobs. Taxes reduces the supply of jobs.

Jobs were PLENTIFUL back before the government starting fucking peoples lives up. And the crazy thing is that productivity was garbage then compared to now. The potential supply of jobs today is vastly greater than the supply of people, but we will only get there if government stops hurting people.

Are you going to employ someone who has had no fixed address for five years? How about no references or qualifications? Perhaps someone who has been in prison? Fair play if you say yes, you're in the minority.
There are plenty of employers that would do this.

It's not just about creating jobs. It's not just about creating incentives for people to get jobs. We need to create incentives for employers to give jobs to those who are left behind.
The ONLY way to do this without leaving MORE people behind is for employers to benefit from the labor more than it costs. The best known mechanism to do this is the free market. If you choose to involve the government, unless you have discovered something that nobody else has (how to have government only reduce asymmetric information in markets), you will increase the costs of labor and thereby you will share responsibility in people being left behind.

I don't think so. They're unambitious for a number of reasons... drugs, qualifications, traumatic life, not quite right in the head, whatever. I couldn't tell you why I'm unambitious. I always have been, even when working. I think it's just my nature.
Economists model this stuff. Your lack of ambition is directly tied to how much money the government gives you.