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I mean... there are good reasons, but none of yours are them is what I'm saying.

Increased probability of terrorism and decreased probability of productivity are very great reasons.

Having a robust system that ensures the same standards from all sources is better.

Which is what this is about. To ensure safety, quality, and other attributes, it is a good idea to use extreme scrutiny for immigration from places like Somalia and not so extreme scrutiny from places like Poland.

Sounds like you imposing your own narrative onto a story you know very little about.

You said, "I've seen multiple instances of the same men caught in photos with firearms in a gang AND admitted as refugees in Europe."

Could you set a lower bar for criminalizing a group of people?
I mean... that sounds like someone somewhere didn't do their job, to be sure. But you seem to be suggesting this is the norm, which, based on, "I've seen multiple photos" seems pretty trigger-happy on the "save me daddy guvm't from these bad guys! I'll pay all the taxes!" cry.

That was my attempt to persuade. As we all know, facts are not persuasive and most types of logical argument are not either. The fact is that there are unique challenges regarding the Syrian "refugees" in part because of the higher probability of them having terrorists among them than is typical of immigrants originating from the average other regions. To some people, anecdote is a persuasive way to get a fact across. Didn't work here.

Source, or what are even talking about?

What agency tracks "immigrating productivity?" What are their evaluation criteria? Based on what sample size and time period?

I don't bookmark. The amount of immigrants from particular areas (like Somalia) that are on welfare and don't have jobs is vastly higher than typical.

I have family members who are enough of a case study themselves. They built from the ground up what has become a highly successful, nationwide company. They have dealt with many, many thousands of workers over the decades of their company. From one of their lips to my ears: "I get more work out of one Korean than ten Somalis." Yet, of course, they are forced to employ and assist Somalis that they otherwise would not because government policy.

FYP.

Neither of those are races. The government disallowing smart discrimination on relevant factors is one of the key ways that people get fucked over.