Make your case: transgender, transracial

[MadMojoMonkey]

If you would like to continue, reread the OP. I referenced two popular items in current topics and asked a question regarding them. Any definition of race I may have is irrelevant, and I only provided mine because you asked.

I haven't assumed you've done anything wrong. I'm trying to understand what your question is. You said 2 words which appear in popular topics, but those words have many definitions and uses, depending on who is using them and in what context.

I can't answer your question until I know what it is, which means I need to know what you mean by the specific words you're using. I gave a direct example of why it's not a cut and dry thing to assume about someone - how they perceive race, that is.

I lament that under such a loose definition of race as you provided, there is little reason to take a stand and say that someone is doing it incorrectly.

Do this: the next time you think I've done something wrong, assume instead that you've misread the situation.

Take your own advice, bro.

[wufwugy]

I lament that under such a loose definition of race as you provided, there is little reason to take a stand and say that someone is doing it incorrectly.

My definition is irrelevant. I am asking for others' opinions in the context of how they view the issues themselves.

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My definition is irrelevant. I am asking for others' opinions in the context of how they view the issues themselves.

Sometimes MMM tools threads up. Sometimes I do.

In this thread it is you; you're being a tool.

[wufwugy]

Sometimes MMM tools threads up. Sometimes I do.

In this thread it is you; you're being a tool.

You have blinders on with regards to me. It's to the point that I have the impression that ~50% of your posts are attacks on me.

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You have blinders on with regards to me. It's to the point that I have the impression that ~50% of your posts are attacks on me.

I think you're wrong sometimes, and sometimes I think your posting style is worthy of mockery.

The same exact thing is true of MMM, and at roughly the same rate.

If you can't see that this is true and see what follows from this truth, possibly it's you that's got the blinders on.



If you still feel but hurt, I'll critique your exchange with MMM since you obviously are having trouble seeing my post as anything but a personal affront.

You started a conversation which MMM joined in. MMM's style (at least in this exchange) is to establish first principles as to ensure everyone is on the same page and the discussion doesn't bare false fruit. This apparently isn't your preferred style (at least in this exchange) and instead of simply saying as much, you attempted to paint MMM's contribution to the discussion as invalid.

Also, while I've got my feet on the constructive criticism stump-- playing the victim is unbecoming. Even if I do have an extreme bias against you, to think that this precludes me from offering valuable criticism is asinine.

[wufwugy]

You started a conversation which MMM joined in. MMM's style (at least in this exchange) is to establish first principles as to ensure everyone is on the same page and the discussion doesn't bare false fruit. This apparently isn't your preferred style (at least in this exchange) and instead of simply saying as much, you attempted to paint MMM's contribution to the discussion as invalid.

He asked, I answered. He didn't like the answer and misunderstood the OP. I'll repeat for the third time that my definition of race is irrelevant and this is clearly the case in the OP.

Also, while I've got my feet on the constructive criticism stump-- playing the victim is unbecoming. Even if I do have an extreme bias against you, to think that this precludes me from offering valuable criticism is asinine.

You offered no critique until just now. You can choose to consider what I said or you can continue to try to discredit me as you have done.

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He asked, I answered. He didn't like the answer and misunderstood the OP. I'll repeat for the third time that my definition of race is <em>irrelevant</em> and this is <em>clear</em><em>ly </em>the case in the OP.

Far too many potentially productive conversations never pay off because people refuse to humour their peers attempts to lay a foundation. &nbsp;Essentially you are saying that you know it to be the case that the framework being set up by MMM could not possibly in any way bare fruit. &nbsp;If this is not the case, I'm open to hearing how that's not what was meant to be inferred from your end of the exchange and further how it is reasonable that that wouldn't be the takeaway.

If this is the case, and if you are indeed interested in making headway towards the truth in these discussions, I think you should put into question the way you navigate them in such a rigid unyielding manner.

You offered no critique until just now. You can choose to consider what I said or you can continue to try to discredit me as you have done.

Sometimes I don't have time to, or am not sure how to articulate the gripe I have, but I can mention that gripe and it doubles as a place holder and also an opportunity for you (or whoever) to dig into it. In this case, you seem to think my gripe was baseless, and in saying so I'm able to revisit it and have another shot at expressing it in a more robust and articulate way. Feel free to critique this approach.

[OngBonga]

Sometimes MMM tools threads up. Sometimes I do.

In this thread it is you; you're being a tool.

I'll save wuf.

So what are we talking about? Transracial? I've just done a whole three minutes of research and it seems that the word "transracial" can be used perfectly legitimately to describe "someone raised in a culture or race different from their own", to give one random googled definition.

I see no reason why someone cannot be proven to be transracial. An image of a white kid asking his black Mommy if he's adopted springs to mind.