Make your case: transgender, transracial

[MadMojoMonkey]

A somewhat arbitrary designation based on a mix of certain types of morphology, heritage, and culture.

If it's all arbitrary lines in the sand, anyway, then doesn't that imply that if you even care, you're just being pretentious?

I don't understand how you expect to get any coherent discussion when you offer only the most bare and faint hint of a definition of what you want to discuss.

At any rate, the struggle for personal identity is something everyone faces and why do you even care how someone else is identifying themself?

You can research that yourself.

Yes, but my answers aren't remotely relevant to clarifying what you said.
I concede that I assumed that you were referring to a genealogical or otherwise scientific understanding of race.

On the topic of race being cultural, I largely disagree, but have no interest in discussing it.

If not cultural, then what?

If no interest, the why even bring it up?
(whatever; troll)

[wufwugy]

If it's all arbitrary lines in the sand, anyway, then doesn't that imply that if you even care, you're just being pretentious?

I don't understand how you expect to get any coherent discussion when you offer only the most bare and faint hint of a definition of what you want to discuss.

At any rate, the struggle for personal identity is something everyone faces and why do you even care how someone else is identifying themself?

Do this: the next time you think I've done something wrong, assume instead that you've misread the situation.

If you would like to continue, reread the OP. I referenced two popular items in current topics and asked a question regarding them. Any definition of race I may have is irrelevant, and I only provided mine because you asked.

[MadMojoMonkey]

If you would like to continue, reread the OP. I referenced two popular items in current topics and asked a question regarding them. Any definition of race I may have is irrelevant, and I only provided mine because you asked.

I haven't assumed you've done anything wrong. I'm trying to understand what your question is. You said 2 words which appear in popular topics, but those words have many definitions and uses, depending on who is using them and in what context.

I can't answer your question until I know what it is, which means I need to know what you mean by the specific words you're using. I gave a direct example of why it's not a cut and dry thing to assume about someone - how they perceive race, that is.

I lament that under such a loose definition of race as you provided, there is little reason to take a stand and say that someone is doing it incorrectly.

Do this: the next time you think I've done something wrong, assume instead that you've misread the situation.

Take your own advice, bro.

[wufwugy]

I lament that under such a loose definition of race as you provided, there is little reason to take a stand and say that someone is doing it incorrectly.

My definition is irrelevant. I am asking for others' opinions in the context of how they view the issues themselves.

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My definition is irrelevant. I am asking for others' opinions in the context of how they view the issues themselves.

Sometimes MMM tools threads up. Sometimes I do.

In this thread it is you; you're being a tool.

[wufwugy]

Sometimes MMM tools threads up. Sometimes I do.

In this thread it is you; you're being a tool.

You have blinders on with regards to me. It's to the point that I have the impression that ~50% of your posts are attacks on me.

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You have blinders on with regards to me. It's to the point that I have the impression that ~50% of your posts are attacks on me.

I think you're wrong sometimes, and sometimes I think your posting style is worthy of mockery.

The same exact thing is true of MMM, and at roughly the same rate.

If you can't see that this is true and see what follows from this truth, possibly it's you that's got the blinders on.



If you still feel but hurt, I'll critique your exchange with MMM since you obviously are having trouble seeing my post as anything but a personal affront.

You started a conversation which MMM joined in. MMM's style (at least in this exchange) is to establish first principles as to ensure everyone is on the same page and the discussion doesn't bare false fruit. This apparently isn't your preferred style (at least in this exchange) and instead of simply saying as much, you attempted to paint MMM's contribution to the discussion as invalid.

Also, while I've got my feet on the constructive criticism stump-- playing the victim is unbecoming. Even if I do have an extreme bias against you, to think that this precludes me from offering valuable criticism is asinine.

[OngBonga]

Sometimes MMM tools threads up. Sometimes I do.

In this thread it is you; you're being a tool.

I'll save wuf.

So what are we talking about? Transracial? I've just done a whole three minutes of research and it seems that the word "transracial" can be used perfectly legitimately to describe "someone raised in a culture or race different from their own", to give one random googled definition.

I see no reason why someone cannot be proven to be transracial. An image of a white kid asking his black Mommy if he's adopted springs to mind.

[spoonitnow]

At any rate, the struggle for personal identity is something everyone faces and why do you even care how someone else is identifying themself?

This question got lost in the hoopla, but it affects other people because it affects government policy and emerging industries as well as changes to current industries. It probably affects society in general in a number of other ways as well, but you get the point.

The current model for oppression (ala SJW) isn't compatible with transracial individuals either unless we make transracial an oppressed class, and that's really interesting in and of itself.