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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I would have answers which correspond with my idea of the universe. I would say that a spaceship that has infinite time and infinite fuel travelling in a straight line will eventually reach the same point in space again
    I don't see any good evidence for or against this. It's not like we can point a telescope in some direction and see the Earth really faint in the distance.

    Yet.

    Figure out how to test this and earn yourself a Nobel Prize.

    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    provided in can stand the pressure of the big crunch - big bang in the centre of the universe, which I doubt.
    Not the center of the universe. The whole universe.

    The story goes that the universe has stopped expanding and then contracts again. It's not moving back through itself; it's contracting.

    When the Big Crunch happens, it will happen everywhere, all at once. Just like the Big Bang. It didn't happen at the "center" so much as it WAS the universe. The entire universe was the entire Big Bang.

    The Big Bang isn't something that happened to the universe any more than being a toddler is something that happened to you.

    (Bear with me on this one, despite it's flaws, I think you'll like it
    Where did your toddler take place? Was it in your head? Your belly? No. It was happening everywhere, to all of you. Did you expand into something else as you got bigger? No, you expanded to a bigger you.

    (Obv. this is a very loose metaphor, please don't take it any further than this.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    Figure out how to test this and earn yourself a Nobel Prize.
    I would get a great deal more pleasure turning down a nobel prize than accepting one. Look, I don't even use a capital letter for nobel. Fuck you alfred.

    I have no idea really. I mean the torus is such a great model, and corresponds perfectly with our ideas of conservation of energy, and equilibrium... it's so perfect. Well, nearly. The expansion of the universe appears to be increasing, which I can't get my head around in any model really. There must be a reason for this, and I think it's geometry.
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    ongies gonna ong

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