Varchertine's Werewolf Game Thread

[OngBonga]

Just think, if we don't lynch baudib today, we have this to look forward to again tomorrow.

[baudib]

Just think, if we don't lynch baudib today, we have this to look forward to again tomorrow.

who's fear mongering now?

[baudib]

Rilla and I are easily the most likely V-V in the game, this is just horrible game theory if you lynch me.

Wuf is playing nothing at all like his normal village game and Boog has contributed absolutely zero. The link between Wuf and Boog is clear as daylight. The movement from Boog to Gabe is wolfy as fuck, despite what Ong says, and Wuf's shift is the wolfiest (or second wolfiest, after MMM, who is likely just clueless).

I don't work as a wolf with a single player in the game, except maybe Rascal, but that's iffy at best.

Furthermore not a single one of you except Monstr knows what to expect from me as a villager so 100% of the "Baud does XYZ" or "Baud seems XXX" are rendered totally meaningless.

[baudib]

I'm 80% drunk but even through beer goggles this seems 100% bassackwards. If we proceed on this path the game is def over. But not in favor of the village. Jeez, Baud, this roadmap for what NOT to do is redonk. You're a much better wolf than this. What happened??

who would you kill then and in what order? Are you saying Wuf-Boog are likely villagers?

[baudib]

That post from Keybored is horrendous. Discrediting without offering differing opinion, saying it's anti-village while expecting me to do better as a wolf, when a wolf would obviously be doing well to promote something that's anti-village. That's a lot of excuses and contradictions in a very short post.

[baudib]

P.S.

Daven: Giving Keybored V-cred for busy work is laughable. If there's anything Keybored has proven it's that he can put in busy work and produce useful lists as a wolf.

[BankItDrew]

He said he was drunk. Don't expect high quality.

[daven]

i've had a quick skim through day 2 now. About to do a thorough readthrough.

based on day 1 and the skim i think that keybored is pretty near to lock villager - general feel plus his vote count posts late on day 1 don't seem like something a wolf would do. BID is getting pretty close to lock villager too, based on his posting, his lack of a slip-up indicating that he's a wolf, and mmm's partner read (noting this does not clear mmm).

here's a soulread guess at a wolf team for ya: baudib/luco//mmm/one of [hoopy/wuf].

i want to hear more from lilrascal on ong.

we should be able to generate a lynch path to victory from this point, as per gabe. working backwards
i'm not lynching luco/keybored or mmm/bid today cos my two village reads mean there are better options.
i'm obviously not lynching bigred today - i'm definitely not clearing him though.
i don't think ong/lilrascal is ideal today.

that leaves boog/monstr, baudib/rilla, or hoopy/wuf.

[baudib]

i've had a quick skim through day 2 now. About to do a thorough readthrough.

based on day 1 and the skim i think that keybored is pretty near to lock villager - general feel plus his vote count posts late on day 1 don't seem like something a wolf would do.

perfect Xpost Daven

[baudib]

Daven makes the same mistake as Ong ~ 40% of the time.

[daven]

i've had a quick skim through day 2 now. About to do a thorough readthrough.

it's messing with my head. I want to join either the baudib or the wuf wagon. Either has decent probability of snagging a wolf, feel of baudib's tone today has been aggressive defence which seems wolfy but i dunno, i always want to lynch wuf and he feels wolf too so. meh. Day 2 is feeling like a whole lot of noise.

what do you mean re the x-post comment baudib?

[daven]

perfect Xpost Daven

why did you quote the first part of my post and ignore the team part as well as the lynch pathway part?

[daven]

Daven makes the same mistake as Ong ~ 40% of the time.

?

[JKDS]

Mod Corner

Vote Count!
(4 leads) Bigred: Keybored, Luco, a500lbgorilla, Hoopy
(4) Baudib: Boog, Ongbonga, Madmojomonkey, Bankitdrew
(3) Wufwugy: Baudib, Monstrman, wufwugy
(1) Ongbonga: Rascal
(1) Luco: Daven

Day 2 Ends in 23.75 hours (11pm MST Sunday)

Q&A

Q: Will you change it so we vote for teams instead of for people?
A: No. Good god man, are you hourly?

[baudib]

why did you quote the first part of my post and ignore the team part as well as the lynch pathway part?

because the rest of the post is you blathering on about dead villagers. Daven, dead villagers played worse than you did and have half the information as you.

Keybored has been a consistent D2 mislynch as a villager, except for one time when he was a N1 vig shot. When he appears helpful and involved, he's a wolf. you were in the ghost angel game, you should know this.

[daven]

because the rest of the post is you blathering on about dead villagers. Daven, dead villagers played worse than you did and have half the information as you.

i disagree. A villager who gets lynched isn't the same as a villager who has played badly. Why are you mis-representing things so much?

Keybored has been a consistent D2 mislynch as a villager, except for one time when he was a N1 vig shot. When he appears helpful and involved, he's a wolf. you were in the ghost angel game, you should know this.

so your read this game is keybored = wolf?

[baudib]

I'm not misrepresenting anything. I am in fact incorporating a portion of Gabe's read on Boog because I have no experience with Boog. But rereading dead villagers has about 1/100th the value of weighing in on more recent developments. It'd be more interesting if Gabe were nightkilled but that can't even happen this game.

so your read this game is keybored = wolf?

He's not at the top of the list but yes. Even if strictly by PoE, there's no room for him in the village if you and BR are villagers IMO.

[baudib]

Go back and reread some of the Ghost Angel game that Wuf modded if you need a refresher. Keybored was easily the most objectively wolfy player in the game, hopping around from wagon to wagon -- "flavor of the day" as some put it -- with little to no reasoning for his switch. He also largely ignored Ong despite the two of them being the most active players in the thread. He got by doing lots of busy work and producing list after list and MQ after MQ.

he's doing a tempered version of that here.

[monstrman]

I can't even tell by looking at the playerlist/votecounts who I would vote for besides wuf and I just find myself not liking any of the other options.

I don't think baudib/rilla contains a wolf

Ong posted pretty hard at a few points this game and I didn't sense any agenda behind any of his posts, from what I remember.

I'm too scared to move to bigred because I think wuf is a wolf. Sorry dude, I mean it sucks sometimes but I just need you to die. I can't reconcile considering any of the other wagons until you're gone.

Did we get who wuf's partner was?

[monstrman]

Or I guess, do we have who wuf's partner is?

[monstrman]

If we're gonna cfd I'm down for whoever baudib chooses

[monstrman]

Not that it matters since we have all day, but still I work tomorrow again so I'll check in but won't be back till later tonight

I shouldn't even be playing right now but here I am

[monstrman]

I really hope I'm not clearing you wrongly baudib.

I really don't read you well at all

[monstrman]

Like just thinking about it you've beaten me every time you've wolfed against me i think

[monstrman]

Wuf's vote is in a very lame and unproductive spot. Unfortunately he has explained that he does not want to give me any reads and, I may be adding my own words here but more or less told me to "suck it nerd, I'm ignoring you "

Well okay he said "you're joining (other player here) in being ignored but still. At this point in the game if you're a villager all you can do is get your reads out there.

If you're a wolf dont fight this and the village will sort it out

[monstrman]

Bigred seems like he'd be easy lynch bait.

At the very least baudib is a wagon of resistance.

voters on big red looking kinda sketchy

[monstrman]

I would go luco or Hoopy overy Keybored I think

[monstrman]

I'm guessing the next wolf play is switch from existing wagon to bus wuf.

That's my villager foresight

[monstrman]

Ooh now I've leveled myself into being scared of voting for wuf

I forgot how exciting being overly paranoid can be.

[monstrman]

I feel like ong/rascal prolly has a wolf in it.

[monstrman]

Daven and rascal should vote be voting on wagons that don't start with (1)

[monstrman]

Vote is supposed to be both.

I really can't words.

Anyway, night.

I'll check on the thread in the morning prolly and them I'm off to work

[baudib]

Monstr -- you were angel in the no-reveal game where I lost at F3

you read me well there and in most other games, even that Venture Bros. disaster.

[baudib]

Quick perusal of Vikings game (it took all of 90 seconds) shows that Keybored was a villager and never posted a vote count, which would have been really helpful at the time since I am the worst vote-counting mod of all time.

[baudib]

it took even less time searching the Ghost Angel game to find this gem of a confuzzled villager wrongly clearing Keybored:

How on earth is Keybored ever a wolf? ever? in a million years?

This post is just 1 example of him doing real, heavy lifting for the village.

BID needs to respond to this fact to explain his key/doob hypothesis.

[baudib]

As a villager in Vikings, Keybored was way more interested in confirming villagers than wolves.

Keith's a villager.

MoMo...Cuz his opening style is consistent with village Ong. Also, his early poke at me would not have been done if he's wolf due to our lingering W-W rep. I don't think he'd want to give ppl reason to make that connection. Finally, his confrontation with BID comes off villagery to me. I think wolf Ong would be less sensitive this early.

MoMo is a villager.

Keith was V.
Ong's a V.
MoMo's a V.
I'm V.V.

This is too easy.

Guess how many posts like this he has this game.

[Luco]

For all his huffing and puffing about how good his wolf game is, this would be a disappointing wolf game for wuf.

[monstrman]

Guess I shouldn't have expected four hours to produce many posts. Oh well

Ya I guess baudib I was just thinking of the first game we played together actually.
you might be right I'm just worried is all.

It's prolly nothing.

[a500lbgorilla]

For all his huffing and puffing about how good his wolf game is, this would be a disappointing wolf game for wuf.

So?

[lilrascal]

At least Ong has admitted he's playing bad. Rascal, what's your take on this?

I finally was able to work thru some things in chat. I now think Ong is most likely villa. I still carry some suspicion and will continue to reassess.

rescind

[lilrascal]

Did you note that Wuf absolutely refuses to give his assessment of his partner despite admitting that sussing out a wolf partner would be pro-village?

I have noted that and it seems suspicious to me. There's only two reasons that I can think that he'd do that.

1) He's a wolf and his reason to not interact in chat is his way to avoid getting caught in two places (chat and thread) in the same game.
2) He's a selfish villa and is just looking to get himself further in the game rather than helping the village.

In either case, I think Wuf needs to go.

[lilrascal]

Ong, if you're a villager and me and Rilla buy it then good luck with the rest of this crew. You've got MMM who says wolves do one thing and then votes for the guy specifically not doing that thing, and Luco who is unengaged and uninterested. At least you've got Daven, who should be up to speed about Day 2 events by Wednesday or Thursday.

glgl

It'll be over. Zero chance you get the order right when this LDFO lynch is Wuf or Boog today and you do something else. I'll give Wuf enough credit for having the balls to figure out a play to get through another day and Ong is going to dominate the thread with his "omg i'm a villager so Boog is a villager for raisins" line.

Baud, I was starting to think you were villa on reread today, then I get to these posts.

Village can't lose with less than 4 V-V mislynches.

Baud is seriously fear mongering with the whole "I'm a V and if you lynch me we lose."

Not that I believe he's a V. Even in the off chance baud/rilla is V/V, then that's it's hardly a "we lose."

It'll suck, but it will be far from over.

Now, I find myself agreeing with MMM here who I'm also suspicious of, but looks better based on this.

[Keybored]

Man...I wish Keith were here, just to see him shit a brick over those consecutive Monstr posts. Ronk's def pissing himself in the dedthrd. Monstr, come on man, fluffing the post count or just unable to summarize?

[lilrascal]

Rilla and I are easily the most likely V-V in the game, this is just horrible game theory if you lynch me.

Wuf is playing nothing at all like his normal village game and Boog has contributed absolutely zero. The link between Wuf and Boog is clear as daylight. The movement from Boog to Gabe is wolfy as fuck, despite what Ong says, and Wuf's shift is the wolfiest (or second wolfiest, after MMM, who is likely just clueless).

I don't work as a wolf with a single player in the game, except maybe Rascal, but that's iffy at best.

Furthermore not a single one of you except Monstr knows what to expect from me as a villager so 100% of the "Baud does XYZ" or "Baud seems XXX" are rendered totally meaningless.

I disagree with the first bolded. I don't think there's a really clear V-V partnership in the game ATM.

With regards to the second bolded. I'd like to clarify this for the other players here (monstr will already understand this). I've played a lot of turbo ww games with Baud on another site. A turbo game has 9 players and has 20 minute days and lasts about 90 minutes. In that time there will be somewhere between 300 and 500 posts. I have been a wolfbro with Baud in that format, but it's not equivalent to a slower game, so I can't base his wolf game on that.

[lilrascal]

Man...I wish Keith were here, just to see him shit a brick over those consecutive Monstr posts. Ronk's def pissing himself in the dedthrd. Monstr, come on man, fluffing the post count or just unable to summarize?

In defense of monstr's posting style, that's the more common method of responding where we both play ww.

You'll notice that I'm doing the same thing.

[lilrascal]

i've had a quick skim through day 2 now. About to do a thorough readthrough.

based on day 1 and the skim i think that keybored is pretty near to lock villager - general feel plus his vote count posts late on day 1 don't seem like something a wolf would do. BID is getting pretty close to lock villager too, based on his posting, his lack of a slip-up indicating that he's a wolf, and mmm's partner read (noting this does not clear mmm).

here's a soulread guess at a wolf team for ya: baudib/luco//mmm/one of [hoopy/wuf].

i want to hear more from lilrascal on ong.

we should be able to generate a lynch path to victory from this point, as per gabe. working backwards
i'm not lynching luco/keybored or mmm/bid today cos my two village reads mean there are better options.
i'm obviously not lynching bigred today - i'm definitely not clearing him though.
i don't think ong/lilrascal is ideal today.

that leaves boog/monstr, baudib/rilla, or hoopy/wuf.

perfect Xpost Daven

it's messing with my head. I want to join either the baudib or the wuf wagon. Either has decent probability of snagging a wolf, feel of baudib's tone today has been aggressive defence which seems wolfy but i dunno, i always want to lynch wuf and he feels wolf too so. meh. Day 2 is feeling like a whole lot of noise.

what do you mean re the x-post comment baudib?

why did you quote the first part of my post and ignore the team part as well as the lynch pathway part?

because the rest of the post is you blathering on about dead villagers. Daven, dead villagers played worse than you did and have half the information as you.

Keybored has been a consistent D2 mislynch as a villager, except for one time when he was a N1 vig shot. When he appears helpful and involved, he's a wolf. you were in the ghost angel game, you should know this.

i disagree. A villager who gets lynched isn't the same as a villager who has played badly. Why are you mis-representing things so much?


so your read this game is keybored = wolf?

I'm not misrepresenting anything. I am in fact incorporating a portion of Gabe's read on Boog because I have no experience with Boog. But rereading dead villagers has about 1/100th the value of weighing in on more recent developments. It'd be more interesting if Gabe were nightkilled but that can't even happen this game.



He's not at the top of the list but yes. Even if strictly by PoE, there's no room for him in the village if you and BR are villagers IMO.

Go back and reread some of the Ghost Angel game that Wuf modded if you need a refresher. Keybored was easily the most objectively wolfy player in the game, hopping around from wagon to wagon -- "flavor of the day" as some put it -- with little to no reasoning for his switch. He also largely ignored Ong despite the two of them being the most active players in the thread. He got by doing lots of busy work and producing list after list and MQ after MQ.

he's doing a tempered version of that here.

This interaction between Baud and Daven looks good for Daven and bad for Baud. Baud isn't that bad at reading posts and misreading/misinterpreting Daven's posts is bad Baud.

Also Baud saying go read other games is just lazy IMO and is not helpful. It's also a contradiction by Baud saying "ancient history" is infinitely less valuable than interaction. Referring to another game is definitely "ancient history", but rereading this thread is not "ancient history".

Baud is definitely going up on my wolf list, but I'll finish catching up before I make a vote.

[Keybored]

Go back and reread some of the Ghost Angel game that Wuf modded if you need a refresher. Keybored was easily the most objectively wolfy player in the game, hopping around from wagon to wagon -- "flavor of the day" as some put it -- with little to no reasoning for his switch. He also largely ignored Ong despite the two of them being the most active players in the thread. He got by doing lots of busy work and producing list after list and MQ after MQ. he's doing a tempered version of that here.

BAUDIB...What you say above is accurate. For ref use: Ong/Keybored were wolves together who eventually won. It was my 3rd or 4th WW game ever and I was completely riding on Ong's coattails. He did the battling and I did busy work to look active. Foot note, Rilla was a wolf that game also and he up/quit day2 cuz of it. Dude don't like or play wolf (weird, but somehow true).

But this game is different. There are no specials or night actions! Nobody has to worry about getting killed (only lynched). To win, the village only has to keep its V-V pairs alive. I'm >90% sure my partner is V, so as long as everyone else is throwing spears around, I find it my responsibility to avoid stray bullets; aka, keep my foot out of my mouth. Is that wolfy, lurkish behavior? Sure. But if you've watched my partner, Luco, you'll see he's done a rather poor job of keeping his head down. But it's tough to hold back when so much shit is flying around and you've got an opinion on most of it. FWIW, I also believe BID/MMM and Ong/Rascal are in the same category. IMO, these 3 pairs are the key to village success and need to be protected.



Assuming all wolves are paired with villagers, to provide you with my reads...
THERE IS A WOLF IN EACH OF THESE PAIRS:
Baud-Rilla
Wuf-Hoppy
Boog/Monstr
Daven/BigRed

My vote has been sitting on BigRed cuz there's two things I hate most in this game: non-voters, non-players. The BigRed wagon has had some momentum yet he still remains MIA. That ain't right; now and esp down the road. In the second half of the game, if Red is still around, we'll have zero info to work with and that's not acceptable.

However, if the Baudib wagon get near to 8 while the BigRed wagon remains low, I'll snap lynch your ass in a second.

[lilrascal]

Monstr -- you were angel in the no-reveal game where I lost at F3

you read me well there and in most other games, even that Venture Bros. disaster.

Quick perusal of Vikings game (it took all of 90 seconds) shows that Keybored was a villager and never posted a vote count, which would have been really helpful at the time since I am the worst vote-counting mod of all time.

it took even less time searching the Ghost Angel game to find this gem of a confuzzled villager wrongly clearing Keybored:

As a villager in Vikings, Keybored was way more interested in confirming villagers than wolves.









Guess how many posts like this he has this game.

Baud, what do you expect us to do with this? You've cherry picked quotes from "ancient history" games.

How do I know how to interpret any of that since it's so out of context? And no, I'm not going to go and reread old games. Reading old games isn't that useful, every game is different.

[lilrascal]

Baud, if I wanted to quote damning quotes like you did, I'd do them from this game. Like this one:

Are all of you incapable of reading? I'm not blaming anyone.

If Gabe flips V then have at me, I'm owning it.

In isolation this post looks bad for you, but when taken into context it's actually neutral. I'm one of the ones that pushed you to not be wishy washy in your vote. So, I don't find this isolated post incriminating because it's out of context.

[Keybored]

In defense of monstr's posting style, that's the more common method of responding where we both play ww. You'll notice that I'm doing the same thing.

Makes sense...One can get waaay behind while typing Wuf-alogs, even in these FTR-WW slow threads. Point taken.

[lilrascal]

BAUDIB...What you say above is accurate. For ref use: Ong/Keybored were wolves together who eventually won. It was my 3rd or 4th WW game ever and I was completely riding on Ong's coattails. He did the battling and I did busy work to look active. Foot note, Rilla was a wolf that game also and he up/quit day2 cuz of it. Dude don't like or play wolf (weird, but somehow true).

But this game is different. There are no specials or night actions! Nobody has to worry about getting killed (only lynched). To win, the village only has to keep its V-V pairs alive. I'm >90% sure my partner is V, so as long as everyone else is throwing spears around, I find it my responsibility to avoid stray bullets; aka, keep my foot out of my mouth. Is that wolfy, lurkish behavior? Sure. But if you've watched my partner, Luco, you'll see he's done a rather poor job of keeping his head down. But it's tough to hold back when so much shit is flying around and you've got an opinion on most of it. FWIW, I also believe BID/MMM and Ong/Rascal are in the same category. IMO, these 3 pairs are the key to village success and need to be protected.



Assuming all wolves are paired with villagers, to provide you with my reads...
THERE IS A WOLF IN EACH OF THESE PAIRS:
Baud-Rilla
Wuf-Hoppy
Boog/Monstr
Daven/BigRed

My vote has been sitting on BigRed cuz there's two things I hate most in this game: non-voters, non-players. The BigRed wagon has had some momentum yet he still remains MIA. That ain't right; now and esp down the road. In the second half of the game, if Red is still around, we'll have zero info to work with and that's not acceptable.

However, if the Baudib wagon get near to 8 while the BigRed wagon remains low, I'll snap lynch your ass in a second.

I like this post by Key. I think I agree on just about everything. I'm not sure on the wolf pair lynch order (assuming that's the order of getting rid of the wolves). I think we get more benefit from getting rid of Wuf/Hoopy than Baud/Rilla.

Lynch Wuf

[lilrascal]

Makes sense...One can get waaay behind while typing Wuf-alogs, even in these FTR-WW slow threads. Point taken.

It also lets you interact in real time with people that post in the thread which is more beneficial IMO.

[lilrascal]

Mod Corner

Vote Count!
(4 leads) Bigred: Keybored, Luco, a500lbgorilla, Hoopy
(4) Baudib: Boog, Ongbonga, Madmojomonkey, Bankitdrew
(3) Wufwugy: Baudib, Monstrman, wufwugy
(1) Ongbonga: Rascal
(1) Luco: Daven

Day 2 Ends in 23.75 hours (11pm MST Sunday)

Q&A

Q: Will you change it so we vote for teams instead of for people?
A: No. Good god man, are you hourly?

I finally was able to work thru some things in chat. I now think Ong is most likely villa. I still carry some suspicion and will continue to reassess.

rescind

I like this post by Key. I think I agree on just about everything. I'm not sure on the wolf pair lynch order (assuming that's the order of getting rid of the wolves). I think we get more benefit from getting rid of Wuf/Hoopy than Baud/Rilla.

Lynch Wuf

I think this is where we stand right now:

Unofficial Vote Count!
(4 leads) Bigred: Keybored, Luco, a500lbgorilla, Hoopy
(4) Baudib: Boog, Ongbonga, Madmojomonkey, Bankitdrew
(4) Wufwugy: Baudib, Monstrman, wufwugy, Rascal
(1) Luco: Daven

We need to consolidate on wagons.

It should also be noted that Wuf is self voting. I doubt that he ever leaves his vote there. Assuming that's the case there's really only 3 votes on Wuf with Wuf not voting.

[Keybored]

Totally agree, no way Wuf parks on himself.

[lilrascal]

It should also be noted that Bigred isn't voting.

[Keybored]

I'd rather take down paired teams by reverse order of strength, in case of mislynch. Mislynching Baud-Rilla or even Wu-Oopy would be harder to recover from than Dav-Red. I can ignore the flailing wolves chained to their masters for the rest of today. Lop off the dead weight now and start the real cleaving tomorrow...

[Keybored]

Did we get who wuf's partner was?

FFS, Monstr...How do you not know the pairings? Why are you posting if you don't have all the info? Can a wolf afford to be this blind? Or is this a good feint? I think this gives Monstr vill-cred by way of lazy/ignorance.

BID-MMM
WUF-HOOPY
BAUD-RILLA
BOOG-MONSTR
DAVEN-BIGRED
LILRASCAL-ONG
KEYBORED-LUCO

[lilrascal]

But, I don't like a Bigred/Daven lynch at this point. That's the team I'm least confident on as having a wolf.

Bigred is deadweight and may be a wolf, Daven is less wolfy than others.

I like the Wuf/Hoopy lynch better. I definitely think there is a wolf in there and once Wuf is gone, there's less distractions for the village.

[lilrascal]

Key, what's your thoughts on Luco?

[Keybored]

How is Wuf distracting more than Baudib? Wuf pops out, shotgun blasts, then ducks down. Baudib is firing at anyone/everyone all over the place. For me, if it's not Red, I'm on Baudib today.

[lilrascal]

I can at least follow Baud's thought processes.

I can't say the same about Wuf. I think most people don't even read his long posts since I see TLDR posted after most of them.

[lilrascal]

Key, what's your thoughts on Luco?

Key, can you please answer this question?

[Keybored]

Unlike Wuf, I believed from the get go that it was a villager's utmost responsibility to use chat to hunt. It's our only special power and shouldn't be wasted. Think about it, if you can get your partner to use quick-topic to engage in convo, there's a better than none chance he'll mix up the wolf den and private den. Right? I mean, they're identical pages. Hell, as much as ppl mix up this format with QT, there's an easy chance a wolf fucks up two open QT pages. That's just one example of how to use private chat to hunt. There are countless other ways, obv. Without giving away too much, I been setting subtle traps for Luco and I've gotten no hint of wolf. Is it possible he's owning me? Sure. But I don't see it. I have a hard time reading him ITT cuz I know what he's thinking (due to private convo) a lot of the time, so I can't objectively say in this thread he's been positively villagery. Lots of ppl have gotten wolf reads off him, so I'm gonna respect that and therefore keep open the possibility he's wolf. Hence my 90% read on his V cred. I'd like to lock-V him but unless he outright slips, I gotta respect the possibility that he' being a good wolf.

[Luco]

Rascal I'm liking your latest string of posts. Carry on soldier

[Keybored]

FWIW, I love reading Wuf's shit. That dude is a fucking word master! On the contrary, I dislike those who hide behind their reps and only post these cryptic one or two liners and expect everyone to just respect the oracle. Communication is a tricky thing. Anyway, I do agree that many probly just skim Wuf's stuff. It's too bad cuz it's not too often you get to look into someone's mind like that. Kid be trippin.

[lilrascal]

Unlike Wuf, I believed from the get go that it was a villager's utmost responsibility to use chat to hunt. It's our only special power and shouldn't be wasted. Think about it, if you can get your partner to use quick-topic to engage in convo, there's a better than none chance he'll mix up the wolf den and private den. Right? I mean, they're identical pages. Hell, as much as ppl mix up this format with QT, there's an easy chance a wolf fucks up two open QT pages. That's just one example of how to use private chat to hunt. There are countless other ways, obv. Without giving away too much, I been setting subtle traps for Luco and I've gotten no hint of wolf. Is it possible he's owning me? Sure. But I don't see it. I have a hard time reading him ITT cuz I know what he's thinking (due to private convo) a lot of the time, so I can't objectively say in this thread he's been positively villagery. Lots of ppl have gotten wolf reads off him, so I'm gonna respect that and therefore keep open the possibility he's wolf. Hence my 90% read on his V cred. I'd like to lock-V him but unless he outright slips, I gotta respect the possibility that he' being a good wolf.

:thumb: Good post and I like that you're keeping an open mind about Luco.

[lilrascal]

Rascal I'm liking your latest string of posts. Carry on soldier

Luco, what are your thoughts on Key?

[lilrascal]

FWIW, I love reading Wuf's shit. That dude is a fucking word master! On the contrary, I dislike those who hide behind their reps and only post these cryptic one or two liners and expect everyone to just respect the oracle. Communication is a tricky thing. Anyway, I do agree that many probly just skim Wuf's stuff. It's too bad cuz it's not too often you get to look into someone's mind like that. Kid be trippin.

I can't follow his logic in most cases. They may make sense from his POV, but he's not getting his message across to others (at least not to me).

[lilrascal]

:thumb: Good post and I like that you're keeping an open mind about Luco.

Since there's no thumb icon on this site. I'll bring my own.

[Keybored]

Yeah...appreciating Wuf's work and understanding it are diff. He does a bad job conveying his msg to most. Those who claim to understand him have been playing with him a long time here.

[Hoopy]

Does anyone else think that bigred/daven won't give much info regardless of role? bigred has zero connections to anyone, daven wants wuf dead but that's about it.

[Luco]

Luco, what are your thoughts on Key?

I trust keybored. I want to stay within the rules so I won't expand on that.

[monstrman]

I'm scared to let any of these wagons die because I'm pretty sure that there's a wolf in one of the pairings of the people we have wagoned and just on the off chance I'm wrong on bigred (though I need to read up on daven) or baud/rilla I want to have the option to make someone make the deciding vote because I think this lynch will shape the rest of the game

[monstrman]

Oh and thank you Keybored I'll make a note to remember those now

[lilrascal]

Does anyone else think that bigred/daven won't give much info regardless of role? bigred has zero connections to anyone, daven wants wuf dead but that's about it.

Bigred is deadweight, but that doesn't make him a wolf. They may eventually need to go (or could skate to a win if the villas figure this out), but there are more likely wolf candidates among the rest.

What are your thoughts on your partner Wuf?