Quote Originally Posted by surviva316 View Post
My thoughts, again, are that tip is a charge that is implicitly added to every bill, and if you don't feel that this establishment is worth their service charges, then don't go there to eat. I mean, Waffle House is pretty fucking infamous for having horrendous service, so if you weren't interested in getting $8-worth of food for $10 because the service there isn't worth the $2, then I would suggest going somewhere else to get your waffles.
I think spoon's "I waited 3 minutes for my drink at Waffle House so I don't tip you" example is a bit extreme, but I think that your argument doesn't work either, surviva.

If you're going to work in a service industry, you had better make some kind of effort to provide service to your customers. It's bullshit to expect that you can just sit on your ass and expect people to tip you because "it's part of the price" for going to the restaurant. Yes -- if you go to a restaurant, you should expect to pay a tip for decent service. But if you get crappy service? Regardless of whether the restaurant has a good reputation or a bad one, crappy service deserves a crappy tip.

Also -- nobody is forcing this person to choose a waiter job over some other job that pays minimum wage. Using the "but they are paid less without tips" argument isn't valid, because that difference is supposed to be earned by the quality of their service.