Fun Thread with 2nd nuts

[OngBonga]

Thing is ging, if I'm villain and have KK, I'm not gonna shove this river because I narrow hero's calling range to AK AT and 88 (I don't think hero has A8 pre or TT on turn), and I only beat one of those hands. Which means I'm weighting villain's shoving range here more towards AK than KK. Unless he's an idiot who isn't thinking about what can call his shove, which he might be.

It's close. I thought rake made it a fold but it's closer than I thought, but I still err towards folding (in theory) because I don't think KK makes this play as often as AK, but I could be wrong obv. In practise I ldo call because I can't make this lay down..

[gingerwizard]

Thing is ging, if I'm villain and have KK, I'm not gonna shove this river because I narrow hero's calling range to AK AT and 88 (I don't think hero has A8 pre or TT on turn), and I only beat one of those hands. Which means I'm weighting villain's shoving range here more towards AK than KK. Unless he's an idiot who isn't thinking about what can call his shove, which he might be.

OK. So a 12/4 at 25NL actually worries about narrowing opponents calling ranges.

How about ranking these in the order of probability that they are actually true.

a.) Villain is a thinking player who not only thinks about your range but your perception of his range.
b.) Villain is a player who thinks about his range.
c.) Villain read a book once that talked about ranges in poker and didn't get it.
d.) Villain puts you on a hand (usually AK, but not here because that beats him).
e.) Villain has even thought about what hand you have.
f.) Villain can spell range but not pronounce it.
g.) Villain can't spell range.
h.) Villain is working from a starting hand chart.
i.) Villain is a bot programmed to shove the river with any set/boat IP.