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    Quote Originally Posted by daviddem View Post
    I also fold it.

    bikes' point and plan are fair, but I think we need more reads to weight fish's 3b range towards JJ and AK based on his sizing (if he even 3b AK). He may be a fish, but his PFR is only 11 and his 3b% is probably negligible.
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    Not sure why this is such a crystal clear fold for some of you, especially considering the fish is getting it in with JJ and AK and we're not even counting random spazzes with AX or whatever else. Only problem is we've got a tight UTG opener still to act, however we're still ahead of his initial opening range.

    UTG: 24% { KK+, JJ-77, AQs+, AQo+ }
    BTN: 39% { KK+, JJ, AKs, AKo } <--- Having a hard time not including more hands we beat here
    HERO: 37% { QQ }
    Last edited by StarGrinder; 03-09-2011 at 02:09 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarGrinder View Post
    Not sure why this is such a crystal clear fold for some of you, especially considering the fish is getting it in with JJ and AK and we're not even counting random spazzes with AX or whatever else. Only problem is we've got a tight UTG opener still to act, however we're still ahead of his initial opening range.

    UTG: 24% { KK+, JJ-77, AQs+, AQo+ }
    BTN: 39% { KK+, JJ, AKs, AKo } <--- Having a hard time not including more hands we beat here
    HERO: 37% { QQ }
    I'm having a hard time understanding why this statement is true. I'm not saying it isn't, I just haven't seen any evidence to support it. If the answer is simply that he's a fish, than I disagree.
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    I don't understand what you're asking. Are you saying the fish isn't 3-betting with JJ/AK (or worse) or that he won't get it in preflop with those hands?

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