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  1. #1
    I have never ever seen a 44/9 that 3bet correctly. Therefore it is safe to assume that the 8% 3bet is probably not going to = the 8% that you gave him. Additionally, a 200 hand sample is never going to give solid 3bet stats so you're better off ignoring that and just looking at two things.
    1) you have the bottom of your stacking off range over 100B deep in early position.
    2) his 3bet size indicates he is NEVER folding his hand.

    Now let me ask you this. What sort of hands is he NEVER folding preflop?
    [00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
    [00:30] <DC> daven
    [00:30] <DC> on my hand?
    [00:30] <daven> yep
    [00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
    [00:30] <daven> nice reason
    [00:30] <daven> no further questions
    [00:30] <yaawn> ^^Lol

    Problem officer...?
  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Donachello View Post
    I have never ever seen a 44/9 that 3bet correctly. Therefore it is safe to assume that the 8% 3bet is probably not going to = the 8% that you gave him. Additionally, a 200 hand sample is never going to give solid 3bet stats so you're better off ignoring that and just looking at two things.
    1) you have the bottom of your stacking off range over 100B deep in early position.
    2) his 3bet size indicates he is NEVER folding his hand.

    Now let me ask you this. What sort of hands is he NEVER folding preflop?
    My answer is going to be biased because i know the outcome, but here goes, conservatively i'd say he is NEVER folding QQ+, which i am a mile behind with 33% equity. In the moment i was shoving or folding, def. not flatting. Now that i think about it more with input, this bet sizing is not to steal. He thinks im calling and wants to get paid. I shoved because i erroneously concluded that i was approx 50/50 if he had <=QQ + FE + worse Ax.

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