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  1. 06-15-2010 05:05 AM #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    Not sure I follow your reasoning here. What do you mean, please explain.
    he means that hero can bet the turn for value because the described villain will have a ton of worse hands in his range that he will still call if we bet.

    so if its a +EV value bet on the turn, then it wouldn't be a mistake to go ahead with it.
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  2. 06-15-2010 05:33 AM #2
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    Thanks Easy and M2M, I can see it now. I reread the original post and I see what you mean.
    So what would be the maximum EV+ bet after the turn. I did a rough calculation and came out with $1.38.
    Is that close to being right?
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  3. 06-15-2010 06:46 PM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    Thanks Easy and M2M, I can see it now. I reread the original post and I see what you mean.
    So what would be the maximum EV+ bet after the turn. I did a rough calculation and came out with $1.38.
    Is that close to being right?
    How do you do a rough calculation when you don't know what his continuing range is and how it's effected by bet sizing lol??
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  4. 06-16-2010 08:35 AM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imthenewfish View Post
    How do you do a rough calculation when you don't know what his continuing range is and how it's effected by bet sizing lol??
    Hmm, now I'm not sure what I did. However, the question still stands, what would be the maximum bet that is still worth making after the turn?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    Hmm, now I'm not sure what I did. However, the question still stands, what would be the maximum bet that is still worth making after the turn?
    You can't calculate that without really accurate reads on the villain
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  6. 06-15-2010 06:57 PM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micro2Macro View Post
    he means that hero can bet the turn for value because the described villain will have a ton of worse hands in his range that he will still call if we bet.

    so if its a +EV value bet on the turn, then it wouldn't be a mistake to go ahead with it.
    His range is wide and has A LOT more Jx and drawing hands than Ax hands. He also figures to at least see a river with a lot of his hands (hence the frustration when these guys catch up and win a big.)

    On the river, his draws miss more often than not and he's probably not calling a big bet with Jx (but he might!) So you get far more value betting the turn than the river.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y
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