Please Help.

Im about done with this Game called poker. Im ready to clean the slate clean and start over from the beginin or just tilt off my last 42 dollars. and be done with it. Here is how its went thus far. 2nl 2377 hands 448 hands won (18.5%) 34 sessions 14 sessions won(41.8%) 13.57 hours Amount Won -$24.84 -26.13bb/100 -$1.05 $/100 -45.77BB/hour -$1.83 $/hour Rake $7.89 So With this going for me i just never seems to improve its just keeps gettin worse and this isnt my only hands i just had to DL Pockertracker again so this is like in a week. but its about the same every time so. Could some one tell me where to start if i just forget everythin i think i know about Poker And start over. The Only thing that makes me feel better is that i get rake back so it least somethin is in the + lol.

Originally Posted by PrvtBong

2377 hands

lol

cool sample bro

yeah, once I tried to learn guitar. I wasn't Jimmi hendrix right away so I quit after about 10 mins.

This is a pretty useful link vvv

http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...re-123008.html

If you've read them once, go ahead and read them again.

U guys are missing the point. If been playin since November 09. And i just keep depoistin. This is my recent sample on pocker tracker for the last week. I can make a small profit on 1 and 2 dollar sngs but i want to get into cash games more. Im askin for help point to some articles or where to start over not to be flamed.

Go to search keyword "range" or "ranges"; user "spoonitnow" be marveled and amazed by what you will find.

Can't really help you if we don't know what's wrong :/

Edit: Why don't you post some stats on yourself, might get "flamed", but what doesn't kill you...

I will flip you for you last 42 dollars if that helps

I don't think I have ever seen you post a single hand asking for advice. I would start there.

GL. And there is hope.

!luck

Dude you've obviously given it a good honest shot for gods sake. I mean after all look at that sample size. What else can a fella do? Sorry it didn't work out for ya!!!

Originally Posted by !Luck

I don't think I have ever seen you post a single hand asking for advice.

He actually has one going on, but he hasn't responded to the questions being asked of him in that thread.

Peeples don't reed good. He said he played 2377 hands in 1 week. He also said he's been playing since Nov. 2009.

PrvtBong, post hands here that you're confused by and you'll get some good advice. Also, now that you have PokerTracker, play another 10,000 hands and post your stats. That's a good place to start. Also, read the links posted above. GL

Aight Fukit Im reading every article in Basics u posted at top. Ill read and reread. Then Ill be back at the 10k mark (if i dont go broke first) Then we will see where im at there. If You dont here from me by then u know i went broke lol

I was down to $24 when I found FTR. "Beating the micros is simple, not easy but simple." I'm not sure who wrote that but I know it was someone on FTR. Beating 2nl is the absolutely simplest thing a person do in their life. All you have to do is put a little effort onto figuring it out. Read the beginners digest, post hands here and quit bitching that you can't beat the game.

Post what stats you have so we can see what you're doing wrong. I bet there are some glaringly obv leaks in your vpip/pfr alone.

And get involved in your own threads for christ sake.

2NL is soft, if you've been consistently losing you have MAJOR leaks in your game. I recently starting playing again and started at 2NL, i've played 2500 hands roughly and am down $1.

So here's why i'm down, and why the game is soft.

I got AA all in preflop twice against low-mid pp's that hit sets on the river.

I had people chase flushes that hit.

I had people chase runner runner flushes that hit.

Here's some more why the game is soft

people min bet.
people min bet strong hands that can be beaten by draws that hit.
people passively call on all streets with middle pairs
people check all the way to the river both when they hold a good hand, or nothing
people think that a J high flush on a 4 of the same suit board is good
some people think K10o is a preflop all in hand
...
...

I could go on.

As was said before, its simple to beat, but not easy. Maybe you are tilting off chips when you've been sucked out on. Maybe you're playing too many hands and bleeding chips. Maybe you're trying to bluff calling stations. Maybe you're not letting go on missed flops with AK/AQ and MrFish is calling with 74o on a 48T board. Maybe you need to learn about pot odds? Maybe you need to realise that AK that made TPTK on the flop isnt that strong if there was 4-5 callers preflop..

PrvtBong - you should download Camtasia's free 30-day trial and make at least one video for us to review. Maybe after we give you advice you start making one or two more.

Post screenshots of your PokerTracker stats too. Start becoming annoying in the forum and just keep asking and begging for help.

Aight Quick update 300 more hands cut all the loses in have expect money won obviously not goin to make back $22 dollars in 300 hands. I stick to it and post back at 10k mark.

Good place for a jumpstart to 2NL imo (it's free):
Crush Online Holdem - Home
Download and watch the 101 video series. Play like him and you WILL beat 2NL, no sweat. It won't be fun or interesting poker, but you WILL beat 2NL, and it will drill some discipline into you, much needed for the higher stakes.

Then read all the beginner's digest and search for all the threads started by Spoonitnow. Read, understand and practice. Do your math religiously, because that's what the game is at the micro: math and probability.

You want to improve, work is involved. A lot of work. No way around it. No moaning and bitching. Your next post is fully expected to be pointed technical questions or hands that gave you difficulties. No bad beat story.

read the stickies

Aight watched the 101 videos. Switched over to full ring. And over the Last 500 hands did show a $4.43 profit so i guess tight is right. But how much differnt will this play style work on 6 max tables?

Shit you won over a 500 hand sample zomfg. You've cracked it bro. Play another 40 hands now and you'll be ready to move up.

6-max will be different. If you read up on the forum you'll see that you should open with a wider range for starters..

good job on showing a profit, but 500 hands is nothing. stick to full ring play tight and win over 20,000+ hands. It might be mind numbing, but posting a positive graph and having some money back in your account will do wonders for your confidence, and cementing the right way to approach the game

Stick to full ring for now, make sure you get into a winning habit there. Later, watch the 102 series which among others explains how to modify the 101 strategy for 6 max and 5-10NL.

As said above, stop reporting 500 hands samples. After playing 10k hands, post screenshots of your positional stats for review. Do not expect to continue winning at this rate. You WILL have break even and loosing stretches of hundreds or thousands of hands and horrendous bad beats and this is to be expected. It is the normal variance of the game, and a lot of patience is required to deal with this. If you can't handle it, move on. Also tilting is absolutely not allowed. If you tilt one stack out, you have to play average 1000+ hands to recover it. Think about that next time you want to make a marginal (or plain stupid) call/play.

Don't add too many tables too fast. This is tempting with such a tight style, but you will soon find yourself with too little time to think properly about your decisions, especially when you have to play 2-3 hands post flop at the same time.

Is that where you learned to 3b 72o?

Originally Posted by 3bet72o

If you're not based in the US, I'd strongly recommend Pokerstrategy.com.

Free $50 starting capital, plus professional judges evaluate your hands.

And less cliques and big egos than here.

why are you here then? apart from trying to get some referral income.

What kinda of stats can u guys review for me? How do i upload Pockertracker stats?

Heres is my stats. I think.

Originally Posted by scott_owen

As was said before, its simple to beat, but not easy.

I can't read it, too small dude.

See here how to properly post an image