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    I specifically remember Cameron saying in 2015 that the result would be respected.

    full speech - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVjhs3gVtJE

    "If we vote to leave, then we will leave".

    clip - https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/90...erendum-latest
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    ongies gonna ong
  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I specifically remember Cameron saying in 2015 that the result would be respected.

    full speech - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVjhs3gVtJE

    "If we vote to leave, then we will leave".

    clip - https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/90...erendum-latest
    Doesn't matter what he says. He's no longer PM. It matters how the referendum was worded, as to whether it was legally binding or not.
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Doesn't matter what he says. He's no longer PM. It matters how the referendum was worded, as to whether it was legally binding or not.
    He was PM when he said it, and it's amusing how you dismiss what the then PM was telling us about the referendum and what it meant, considering you're arguing "but we're not necessarily going to fulfill the outcome".

    He directly contradicts you.
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    ongies gonna ong
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    He was PM when he said it, and it's amusing how you dismiss what the then PM was telling us about the referendum and what it meant, considering you're arguing "but we're not necessarily going to fulfill the outcome".

    He directly contradicts you.
    He was making a promise, not describing whether or not the referendum was legally binding. Two different things. And since he's no longer PM, he failed to fulfill that promise and therefore you should write him a strongly -worded letter.

    I can promise to buy you a beer when we meet. If I break that promise, you can't take me to court and say I broke a contract.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    He was making a promise, not describing whether or not the referendum was legally binding. Two different things. And since he's no longer PM, he failed to fulfill that promise and therefore you should write him a strongly -worded letter.

    I can promise to buy you a beer when we meet. If I break that promise, you can't take me to court and say I broke a contract.
    Maybe he should've put such a promise on the side of a bus, maybe then you'd be outraged about broken promises and utter bullshit.

    Do you not see a problem with the PM saying "here's a referendum, this will decide our fate and there won't be another one", and then abandoning that claim and holding another referendum? Do you not see how this is a "democratic crisis", a direct challenge to the principles that all western societies hold in high regard?

    It's like lies are only a problem to you when they mean you lose.
    Last edited by OngBonga; 11-21-2019 at 03:32 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    ongies gonna ong
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Maybe he should've put such a promise on the side of a bus, maybe then you'd be outraged about broken promises and utter bullshit.

    Do you not see a problem with the PM saying "here's a referendum, this will decide our fate and there won't be another one", and then abandoning that claim and holding another referendum? Do you not see how this is a "democratic crisis", a direct challenge to the principles that all western societies hold in high regard?

    It's like lies are only a problem to you when they mean you lose.
    I don't really care what promises he made or broke. He's not in charge any more, so it's not my problem lol.

    If the next PM says he's going to wipe out unemployment and then doesn't, does that destroy democracy? I mean surely some people would be dumb enough to believe that promise and vote for him/her.

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