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[boost]

This is perfect for the gun nuts.

A handgun (also sniper/assault etc rifles, machine guns etc) is by definition a weapon. There is nothing else it can be. A handgun is by definition not a tool, unless you consider its function as a tool that of killing people.

A machete is a tool, which can also be used as a weapon. Its main function is to cut down stuff, like tall grass, sugar canes, trimming trees, etc. It can also be used to chop people's heads off and otherwise maim, but a lot of force, determination and courage are required to do that.

What this dude had in hand is not a weapon. What the officer had in hand was. Funny how the officer told this dude to "drop the weapon". So scared of a long stick to pick up trash.

This needs to be called out more for exactly what it is. It's a cynical preemptive legal argument for the individual cop's lawyers and the police department's lawyers. Similarly "stop resisting!" is used while people being pinned down by multiple officers are beaten/tazed as a form of instant "justice." If video of the incident ever makes it to court, a jury will be predisposed to see the person as the bad actor because the audio is laced with a pro cop biased narrative.

I am not anti-cop. You won't hear me saying "ACAB!", I think there are problems inherent to the profession that they can do a much better job of mitigating, but I'm happy I live in a place with a professionalized police force that is relatively free of corruption. That being said, these live narrations by cops for an intended jury audience are disturbing.

That all being said, while I understand the guy's frustration, he was really walking on the edge when he heard the cop refer to the picker-upper thing as a weapon, and then continued to aggressively point it at the cop. The cop was like a bull giving all the signals that he was readying to charge, and the guy did almost all the wrong things to keep from getting mauled. If a cop tells you to "put down the weapon", you should do everything you can to make clear that you are not a threat. If you want to continue walking away, do so with your hands up and slowly while calmly stating that you are not armed, because what he is doing is justifying shooting you, to himself as well as a future jury.

[oskar]

I am not anti-cop.

Let me fix that:

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/8...1kafNIBoITxC-A

[boost]

Let me fix that:

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/8...1kafNIBoITxC-A

I don't understand your goal here. This quote is from the context of me criticizing this police officer for participating in a wide spread systemic issue in policing. To bolster my point, I make it clear that I'm not an ACAB drooler. Being anti-cop is nonsensical. No one actually wants to live in a society without police. You might say the words, you might think you mean them-- but when you get down to the nuts and bolts, when you actually understand the implications, it's not what you want.

Being anti-cop is a childish response to a serious set of issues. It's akin to the people who hear about a rapist going to prison and proclaim their hope that they themselves get raped. It's dumb. Mulling it over for half a second makes it abundantly clear how dumb of a position it is.

[dwarfman3]

I don't understand your goal here. This quote is from the context of me criticizing this police officer for participating in a wide spread systemic issue in policing. To bolster my point, I make it clear that I'm not an ACAB drooler. Being anti-cop is nonsensical. No one actually wants to live in a society without police. You might say the words, you might think you mean them-- but when you get down to the nuts and bolts, when you actually understand the implications, it's not what you want.

Being anti-cop is a childish response to a serious set of issues. It's akin to the people who hear about a rapist going to prison and proclaim their hope that they themselves get raped. It's dumb. Mulling it over for half a second makes it abundantly clear how dumb of a position it is.

Off topic but I preferred when you were called boostNslide, it had a much better ring to it.