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  1. 04-25-2019 08:17 AM #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    What if I told you that the average black person's IQ is a full standard deviation lower than the IQ of the average white person

    Would that explain inequality?

    Is that fair?
    Are you suggesting this is due to genetics?
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  2. 04-25-2019 08:20 AM #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Are you suggesting this is due to genetics?
    I just read the data. I'm not inferring anything about what it means.

    Stop answering questions with questions.
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  3. 04-25-2019 08:26 AM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    I just read the data. I'm not inferring anything about what it means.

    Stop answering questions with questions.
    To answer your question you need to know why the IQ scores are lower for one group than another. If it's genetics, well too bad nothing can be done. If it's something else, then yes something can be done.
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  4. 04-25-2019 08:44 AM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    If it's genetics, well too bad nothing can be done.
    WRONG

    Let's play this out for a minute. Assume it is genetics. Does that mean we accept inequality? What happens in a world where we definitively determine that IQ is genetic, and black people lost the genetic lottery.

    How would we deal with racism and inequality then?
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  5. 04-25-2019 09:00 AM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    WRONG
    Are you going to genetically programme all the races to have equal IQ?


    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Let's play this out for a minute. Assume it is genetics. Does that mean we accept inequality?
    I don't think it is genetics. I think it's very unlikely that IQ differs by more than a couple of points between races, if at all, when environmental factors are controlled for.

    But, if it were that large an effect (one standard deviation) you would have to accept that yes, it's less likely for black people to attain higher levels of success. (hypothetically speaking).



    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    How would we deal with racism and inequality then?
    Good question. But I don't think thinking about solving highly unlikely situations is very useful.
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    Here's another population level effect: Native Americans have a lifetime 60% rate of alcohol dependency.

    Is this a genetic problem with having some kind of alcoholic gene or something else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Here's another population level effect: Native Americans have a lifetime 60% rate of alcohol dependency.

    Is this a genetic problem with having some kind of alcoholic gene or something else?
    Did someone oppress them into drinking?
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  8. 04-25-2019 08:32 AM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Did someone oppress them into drinking?
    Do you think that's not possible to do?
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  9. 04-25-2019 08:35 AM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Do you think that's not possible to do?
    So I smoke weed because oppression? I am a victim!
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  10. 04-25-2019 08:36 AM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    So I smoke weed because oppression? I am a victim!
    Does smoking weed keep you from holding a job? Does it give your kids FAS? Are you really trying to equate using recreational drugs with alcoholism?
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