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[OngBonga]

This is ignoring a lot of the systematic racism that exists in this country. You only have to go count the number of asians working at petrol stations to see this. So either you think there's a different level of opportunity for people based on colour or you think asians have an aptitude for low-paying menial jobs.

Do you know why there's lots of Asians working at petrol stations? Because their Asian fathers own them.

It has nothing to do with racism, and everything to do with immigrants looking for business opportunities to justify their citizenship. Good for them.

[Poopadoop]

Do you know why there's lots of Asians working at petrol stations? Because their Asian fathers own them.

Uh huh. Moving on.

It has nothing to do with racism,

You really think there's no systematic racism in the UK? I'm not saying we're on the level of America, but come on.

[OngBonga]

Uh huh. Moving on.

You really think there's no systematic racism in the UK? I'm not saying we're on the level of America, but come on.

Well Asian people at petrol stations is not evidence of systematic racism, on the contrary it demonstrates that immigrants are given equal opportunities to invest in community businesses.

Where is the systematic racism in the UK? Give actual examples, I'm open to persuasion.

[Poopadoop]

Well Asian people at petrol stations is not evidence of systematic racism, on the contrary it demonstrates that immigrants are given equal opportunities to invest in community businesses.

Where is the systematic racism in the UK? Give actual examples, I'm open to persuasion.

How many black kids go to Eton and Oxbridge?

Why do we actually need laws that say 'you can't discriminate' if no-one is discrminating?

[OngBonga]

How many black kids go to Eton and Oxbridge?

Why do we actually need laws that say 'you can't discriminate' if no-one is discrminating?

How many black kids go to Eton or Oxbridge? I have no idea. More than zero. How many white non-Mulsim kids are at the expensive Islamic schools? Maybe if they didn't exist, there would be more rich immigrants at Eton.

And why do we need a law? Because individuals need to be told what is and isn't illegal. An individual being racist is not systematic racism, it's just racism.

[Poopadoop]

How many black kids go to Eton or Oxbridge? I have no idea.

I'll give you a hint. There's much less than their proportion of the population.

More than zero.

I'd be surprised if the number was much larger than zero for Eton.

How many white non-Mulsim kids are at the expensive Islamic schools? Maybe if they didn't exist, there would be more rich immigrants at Eton.

Lol, dunno how many Jewish kids go to Catholic schools? What a stupid question.

And why do we need a law? Because individuals need to be told what is and isn't illegal. An individual being racist is not systematic racism, it's just racism.

So you admit there's some racists here, just that they don't make a sizable proportion of the population or have undue influence.

[OngBonga]

lol this is a joke right? A black kid doesn't want to go to Oxbridge even though it's one of the top unis in the world because he PREFERS to go somewhere else.

We're arguing about black kids at Eton without either of us having the slightest fucking idea how many are there. Any more than zero is enough to demonstrate that they are indeed welcome.

Ok maybe he does because he doesn't want to stick out like a sore thumb.

This is a choice based on victim mentality.

Why do Oxbridge not accept people anonymously based on their performance? Why do they need to know if the person's name is Halburt Winthorp or Shaneille Jackson? Why interview them?

Why interview people for jobs? Why not just do it on paper?

Being more tolerant of religious diversity than Pakistan is hardly anything to wave the flag about.

Well I'm giving you examples of systematic racism. That's what it is... it's racism supported either by policy or social norm.

I'm pretty sure asians don't own every single petrol station. But whatever I can't prove it.

They don't, just like they don't own every corner shop. Again, well done for demonstrating that it's equal opportunity.

[OngBonga]

The existence of the Black Police Officer's Association, but not a white equivalent, that's systematic racism.

But I'm sure you're looking for examples that favour whites, rather than discriminate against them.

[Poopadoop]

The existence of the Black Police Officer's Association, but not a white equivalent, that's systematic racism.

But I'm sure you're looking for examples that favour whites, rather than discriminate against them.

Not at all. I just don't think that's an example of racism.

A better question is why do they think they need a Black POA? Do you think they're getting together to plot against Whites, or does it have some more constructive purpose?

[BananaStand]

A better question is why do they think they need a Black POA? Do you think they're getting together to plot against Whites, or does it have some more constructive purpose?

Trick question. The answer can be neither.

[Poopadoop]

Trick question. The answer can be neither.

You mean there's a less constructive purpose than plotting against whites?

[OngBonga]

Not at all. I just don't think that's an example of racism.

A better question is why do they think they need a Black POA? Do you think they're getting together to plot against Whites, or does it have some more constructive purpose?

The point of the BPOA is it is a body that represents the interests of minorities in the police force. Why do minorities need representation but not majorities?

There's no plot, but it is discrimination against whites. What would happen if someone tried to create a white POA body? Outrage, and accusations of racism.

[Poopadoop]

but it is discrimination against whites.

Silly.

What would happen if someone tried to create a white POA body? Outrage, and accusations of racism.

The majority doesn't need protection by virtue of it being the majority. It's already protected by its majority-ness.

Outrage, and accusations of racism.

I don't know about that. I think most people would just find it silly.

But let's say there was outrage. That for some reason, the police who are known for being at least a bit racist (or having some racists on their force) decide to form a WPOA would not sit well with a lot of people I guess wouldn't surprise me.