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    What's the sinking ship?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    What's the sinking ship?

    The one that's about to get hit by a blue wave

    I'm not sure to whether be happy or sad, because most of them blue commies appear not to have learned their lesson the last time

    Sadly, it is now more apparent than ever that you guys are a one party system. Not even Coke and Pepsi; more like Coke and Diet Coke. No one will choose diet when you can have the full fat; both kill you anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    The one that's about to get hit by a blue wave
    It's gonna be interesting for sure. I don't have a position yet, probably because most of what's out there is not very good analysis.

    Essentially what makes midterm elections turn out the way they do is where on the spectrum we are between "anti-president enthusiasm" and "the goodness of the economy". The way things are now, it is really hard to tell which will be more powerful. There is a degree of anti-Trump enthusiasm in the Democratic base, but depending on how well perceived the economy is, that enthusiasm will grow or diminish enough to create a blue wave or nothing of the sort.

    If I have to bet on it, I would say signs are that there will not be a blue wave. But I'm not certain enough about it to express a position.
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    It also happens to be that your foreign and domestic policy is demonstrably dictated by a TV show, which is hilarious, ironic, tragic and terrible at the same time.

    These are quite interesting times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    It also happens to be that your foreign and domestic policy is demonstrably dictated by a TV show, which is hilarious, ironic, tragic and terrible at the same time.

    These are quite interesting times.
    weak sauce demagoguery

    First of all, if the President didn't consume any news, you'd be saying some pretty foul things about him. So let's start this by agreeing that it IS important for the President to consume news. Why? Because it's a connection to popular opinions and the will of the people.

    As you know, various news sources lean in various directions. But Trump's voting base comes from one direction. So it's not really surprising that Trump would listen more intently to voices that are coming from the same direction as his voting base. That's what elected leaders do. It's called fucking Democracy man!

    That doesn't mean that he only gets his news from one source. That's a wild and incendiary inference. In fact, in a different news cycle you might be bitching about Trump being 'thin-skinned' over something CNN said about him. Well how the fuck would he know about it if he's only watching FOX?

    Now because you can point to a handful of times that Trump's tweets echoed an episode of Fox and Friends doesn't mean that it's compelling any substantial developments of policy that wouldn't have otherwise occurred. Tweeting isn't the same as lawmaking!!

    Maybe Trump just has a favorite show. he's a human being just like you and me. And why wouldn't F&F be his favorite show? The curly haired guy and Trump have been friends for a long time. And Ainslee's legs.....mmm
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    weak sauce demagoguery

    First of all, if the President didn't consume any news, you'd be saying some pretty foul things about him. So let's start this by agreeing that it IS important for the President to consume news. Why? Because it's a connection to popular opinions and the will of the people.

    As you know, various news sources lean in various directions. But Trump's voting base comes from one direction. So it's not really surprising that Trump would listen more intently to voices that are coming from the same direction as his voting base. That's what elected leaders do. It's called fucking Democracy man!

    That doesn't mean that he only gets his news from one source. That's a wild and incendiary inference. In fact, in a different news cycle you might be bitching about Trump being 'thin-skinned' over something CNN said about him. Well how the fuck would he know about it if he's only watching FOX?

    Now because you can point to a handful of times that Trump's tweets echoed an episode of Fox and Friends doesn't mean that it's compelling any substantial developments of policy that wouldn't have otherwise occurred. Tweeting isn't the same as lawmaking!!

    Maybe Trump just has a favorite show. he's a human being just like you and me. And why wouldn't F&F be his favorite show? The curly haired guy and Trump have been friends for a long time. And Ainslee's legs.....mmm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    It also happens to be that your foreign and domestic policy is demonstrably dictated by a TV show, which is hilarious, ironic, tragic and terrible at the same time.

    These are quite interesting times.

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    weak sauce demagoguery

    First of all, if the President didn't consume any news, you'd be saying some pretty foul things about him. So let's start this by agreeing that it IS important for the President to consume news. Why? Because it's a connection to popular opinions and the will of the people.
    Consuming news is different than watching a show and executing their sole advice, time and time again

    Plus, you are the president. You have all the news at your disposal at all times from your own private sources. You are supposed to know what is going on much better than any TV show* out there.

    * Notice I said "TV Show" and not "News Show"

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    As you know, various news sources lean in various directions. But Trump's voting base comes from one direction. So it's not really surprising that Trump would listen more intently to voices that are coming from the same direction as his voting base. That's what elected leaders do. It's called fucking Democracy man!

    That doesn't mean that he only gets his news from one source. That's a wild and incendiary inference. In fact, in a different news cycle you might be bitching about Trump being 'thin-skinned' over something CNN said about him. Well how the fuck would he know about it if he's only watching FOX?

    Now because you can point to a handful of times that Trump's tweets echoed an episode of Fox and Friends doesn't mean that it's compelling any substantial developments of policy that wouldn't have otherwise occurred. Tweeting isn't the same as lawmaking!!

    Maybe Trump just has a favorite show. he's a human being just like you and me. And why wouldn't F&F be his favorite show? The curly haired guy and Trump have been friends for a long time. And Ainslee's legs.....mmm
    Totally coincidental, I'm sure

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    Apr 13, 2018, morning

    Fox & Friends Is JUST WONDERING if Trump Bombing Syria Would Distract From James Comey

    https://splinternews.com/fox-friends...ria-1825236104

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    Apr 13, 2018, nighttime

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    Consuming news is different than watching a show and executing their sole advice, time and time again
    Agreed. And if someone in power was watching a single news source and "executing their sole advice" it would be a problem. However, if someone merely has their policy leanings influenced by public opinion, or has questions raised that are cogent to policy-making, then it's not a problem. You're conflating the two just so you can create a statement that sounds "true enough" and use it to attack the political opposition.

    That's called demagoguery

    Plus, you are the president. You have all the news at your disposal at all times from your own private sources.
    False

    You are supposed to know what is going on much better than any TV show* out there.
    Even so, how do you propose the president find out what his constituents think about what's going on?

    * Notice I said "TV Show" and not "News Show"
    LOL, wake up dude. It's 2018. There is no longer a line between "news" and "analysis and commentary". That's not a problem isolated to Fox.

    Totally coincidental, I'm sure
    If you're suggesting that Trump took military action against a hostile nation just so he could distract from a public relations nuisance then you're playing a retarded correlation/causation game that you really should be ashamed of. If you're suggesting that he couldn't formulate that idea on his own, but instead did it because he saw someone say it on TV, then you should probably just withdraw from this discussion because it's clear you aren't willing to keep your opinions within the realm of sanity.

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