Universal Basic Income

[oskar]

Well for one the three problems you listed would be gone by default. That's a semantic point, but a semantic point is a point nonetheless as spoon has taught me. The one major thing a negative tax type system improves is the perceived cost of getting work when you're on welfare. Let's say you get 50 schmeckles a month for nothing. You could get a 40h job that pays 70 schmeckles but you would be effectively working for 20 extra schmeckles. A negative tax system alleviates that.

fwiw this is waaaaaaaaaaaaay down my priorities list. I don't read up about this, I don't think about it, but this is the least retarded thread on this forum atm and I'm trying to figure out if it's worth checking in still.
More interesting than this whole thing is why you guys get so worked up about this. Even if it's unjust. You are not getting close to having any sort of influence on how this works. This is 100% out of your control, so there's no reason to be upset about it. This is like getting upset about the sun setting at night.

[BananaStand]

Well for one the three problems you listed would be gone by default.

How??

Food stamps are issued in an exclusive currency as a measure to prevent abuse. It prevents them from being spent on jewelry, video games, and drugs.

That will be "gone by default" if you issue benefits in the form of cash instead?? Wut??

How is this merely a semantic point?

[oskar]

How??

Food stamps are issued in an exclusive currency as a measure to prevent abuse. It prevents them from being spent on jewelry, video games, and drugs.

That will be "gone by default" if you issue benefits in the form of cash instead?? Wut??

How is this merely a semantic point?

I even said it was a semantic point. If you get the money no-strings-attatched, it's not fraud waste or abuse to do with it whatever you want. I told you I was making an intellectually dishonest statement for the lolz and you're still getting worked up over it. Check your blood pressure, man.

[BananaStand]

I even said it was a semantic point. If you get the money no-strings-attatched, it's not fraud waste or abuse to do with it whatever you want.

Well...if we're gonna be THAT semantic, I would take issue with your use of the word "gone". That word means something different than "Re-branded"

[BananaStand]

Even if it's unjust. You are not getting close to having any sort of influence on how this works. This is 100% out of your control, so there's no reason to be upset about it. This is like getting upset about the sun setting at night.

I highly recommend you move out of whatever progressive shithole that you live in now and get yourself some democracy.

[oskar]

I highly recommend you move out of whatever progressive shithole that you live in now and get yourself some democracy.

non-sequitur lol

[MadMojoMonkey]

More interesting than this whole thing is why you guys get so worked up about this. Even if it's unjust. You are not getting close to having any sort of influence on how this works. This is 100% out of your control, so there's no reason to be upset about it. This is like getting upset about the sun setting at night.

This captures my sentiments so well.

I think the answer is pretty simple. Most people can't tell the difference between who they are and what they believe, and are offended at the notion that they could be considered separately.