Universal Basic Income

[oskar]

That's a trade-off. Low crime, and low recidivism rates are due to a lack of income inequality. Crime is a side effect of income inequality. If your argument is that wealth redistribution will reduce crime, fine, you'll get no argument from me. But I would argue that redistribution destroys the incentive to innovate and take risks. It diminishes the returns for excellence, therefore diminishing the drive toward excellence. It's no coincidence that 40+ of the top 50 hospitals in the world are in America. Who the fuck wants to become a Doctor in Norway if it means essentially living the same lifestyle as an insurance agent? So I would ask you, is that a fair trade-off for having less street crime?

idk, ask the doctors in norway. They seem to be doing fine. There are lots of studies about monetary incentives and productivity. General conclusion: not that important past a certain point. I don't think I'm just speaking for myself when I say: I'd much rather work in my field for minimum wage than as a cashier for twice my wage.

Also, you're forgetting the main reason for the prison system. It's not punishment nor is it rehabilitation. It's a deterrent.

So how's that working out for you guys? And no I did not forget that, it is immaterial to the point I was making.

I actually live in a state that collects 0 income or sales tax. Schools are still open. Roads and bridges are functional.

That's great. That's how it should be imo.

[BananaStand]

idk, ask the doctors in norway. They seem to be doing fine.

A specialist in Norway makes $77K. In America, that same doctor makes $230K. If you got cancer tomorrow, to which country would you go for medical care?
https://journal.practicelink.com/vit...ion-worldwide/

There are lots of studies about monetary incentives and productivity. General conclusion: not that important past a certain point.

Bogus. These studies evaluate financial incentives for people working in their existing jobs. A better question would be to evaluate incentives that drive initial career decisions. In other words, why does a 22 year old want to go to medical school and be a doctor? What makes a person decide to be a lawyer, or accountant, or plumber?

According to my own non-scientific, but completely accurate and reliable study, a major driving force in career decision making is long-term financial security.

I don't think I'm just speaking for myself when I say: I'd much rather work in my field for minimum wage than as a cashier for twice my wage.

you are certainly not speaking for the majority.

So how's that working out for you guys?

Fine.

That's great. That's how it should be imo.

So why do we need UBI?